I don’t have one. GOS
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ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 weeks agogood luck “removing” that while not breaking the system. It so deeply integrates itself that you can’t really remove it even from a lineage os install
LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
ok, but that’s not what most people on this world use. they are basically stuck with a rom that has google services integrated
LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Yes but internet exist. Unfortunately people don’t care the way they should.
ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
most people are not
- technically literate to install a custom rom with a computer’s command prompt
- willing to give up bank apps and sometimes phone based payment
even just considering the first point, it is really not just “some” effort. sure we can do it, but this is a very small bubble.
I think it’s comparable to replacing the windows on your house all by yourself, from selection, across acquisition and taking out the old one, to installing the new one nicely and with insulation.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Lineage by default has no gapps.
ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
that’s true, I meant when you install opengapps to it
LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Don’t do that :)
ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
you are making choices for others. some apps require it. and then the post was about removing gapps, and my point was that it’s not possible to just uninstall it.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
[deleted]ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
that’s a replacement to be used on a clean system, but it does not help removing an integrated gms
MXX53@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Buy a used pixel in cash, install Graphene. This is probably the best way to accomplish running without google services.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
[deleted]MXX53@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
The reason for pixel has to do with meeting graphene’s specific security and privacy guidelines. You can read them here grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices. I’m not a pixel fan specifically, but I am Graphene fan and I like my privacy and security.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 3 weeks ago
Then maybe Graphene should amend their guidelines to address that not everyone can get that phone, especially after Orange Man tariffs
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Yeah, same. I’m a GOS user myself but hate the absolutism some people have about it. I would’ve probably gone with Lineage if I hadn’t bought this particular phone (and would likely go there anyway after the support ends, as GOS’ support is relatively short).
MXX53@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
For me it isn’t absolutism. It is about trying to get the most private secure setup I can. Currently, that is Graphene and that required a pixel. If there ever comes a time where another device is supported, preferably one focused on repairability, I will go that way.
LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
A fork of GOS for EOL devices would be pretty nice I agree , but GOS doesn’t decise phone security, manufacturers do. Any phone with good enough security would be a target device for GOS.
Calyx OS usually run longer on EOL so I would go there before lineage.
ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
most people for whom I help configure their phones they don’t want to buy a new one. and they are often terribly afraid of used phones. I don’t have any google services on my phone, the problem is not about me, but lets be honest, the absolute majority of the world’s population
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Why such an obsession with used Pixels? While $300 for mine was expensive, it wasn’t a lottery when buying at least, and its battery didn’t come pre-worn. Also I had no trouble buying it in cash.
flora_explora@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Because no one should give Google any more money! Buying second hand/refurbished is the only way it makes sense for me to get a device by a large corporation like that.
I’ve had a couple of refurbished pixel phones and they’ve each worked well for years. The battery health was at about 95% when I bought them I think.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
But by that logic, the unofficial reseller I buy from has also already paid Google for the phones they’re selling now…
MXX53@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Why would I buy brand new when I could provide life to a phone that might otherwise end up in a landfill?
Undertaker@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Quite easy. Simply remove it. It is not deeply integrated as you say. The Problem is using other apps that depends on Google thus sending data to Google. Is that the case: reconsider your app usage
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
And most of them still work, just can’t display ads.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
The most noticeable change in behavior would actually be lack of push notifications. At least by default - you can set up push without Google (like with UnifiedPush), but not all apps support that.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I dislike being bothered if i’m not actively using the device, so that’s a plus for me.
ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
the modt noticable change is when the developer built all functionality around every kind of firebase service, and didn’t care to handle the case when they are not available
ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
that’s not my experience, but maybe they changed something recently