Comment on Israeli TV producer calls for 'Gaza holocaust, gas chambers'
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 6 days agoMenachem Begin was leader of the Irgun, not the Lehi. Although these groups were both extremists. He became prime minister two decades later. Yes, he was a right winger and considered armed conflict to be inevitable. He also became prime minister by catering to the underserved and discriminated Mizrahi population, that had to flee from persecution in Arab countries to Israel.
Another former terrorist becoming President is right next door with Yasser Arafat.
Jews were also massacred and expelled at the time like in 1929 in Hebron and during the 1947/48 war.
That said of course Deir Yassin was a big crime.
chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Yitzhak Shamir was the second leader of Lehi after Stern was killed, he too was prime minister.
Not a good look when you have multiple terrorist leaders become prime minister.
As to the 1929 massacre, it was bad, but you can sort of understand the urge to fight against colonizers. Which the Jewish population was already starting to become thanks to the Balfour Declaration and the British betrayal of the Arab fighters who served under T.E. Lawrence.
As to the 1947/1948 war… Some Palestinians fought back, but they were out gunned thanks to Poland of all places. Hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated, either through outright massacres or threats of massacres, and none of those people were ever allowed to go home. Their land seized by foreign occupiers, who gave it to their friends.
Which has been the story ever since. Zionists, often foreign born, come in, steal some land, kill some people, and face no consequences because they have the backing of foreign military hardware.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Hebron had a very old Jewish community. It was part of the old Yishuv for centuries. These weren’t colonizers but indigenous.
You’re leaving out the reason why most Zionists come to Israel. They come as refugees from persecution to the only place they can go.
chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Persecuted people, who instantly started killing the natives. 1929 was 9 years into the Zionist colonization. 12 or 13 if you want to speak about Mr Balfour or Mr Sykes. Which just goes to show that you don’t have to be Jewish to be a Zionist piece of shit.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Zionism and immigration started before Balfour ever wrote something down.
When Balfour wrote the declaration the British Empire didn’t even have control over Palestine. The declaration was an attempt to use the Zionist movement for the British Empire’s ambitions in the region.