Comment on The clueless people are out there among us

• Jesus_666@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I think the Swiss have the best Europlug-based system. Their three-conductor plugs have the same footprint as basic Europlugs, which makes for very dense plug arrangements. Unlike e.g. the German Schuko plug they only fit in one orientation so you get no polarity issues.

  It’s pretty neat.

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  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    polarity issues

    Not an issue, you can swap line and neutral freely. It becomes an issue if you want to use three phases and a three phase motor (because the order of phases is important) but that is covered by other sockets. Plain old Schuko is one phase, LNG.

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  • bricked@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What do you mean by polarity issues? AFAIK alternating currents don’t have a polarity.

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    • Jesus_666@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s quite how AC outlets work. Line and neutral can intentionally have different potentials relative to ground depending on how the house’s electrical system is designed. This can become relevant in certain situations like very simple devices (think “lamp socket with a power plug”).

      A plug that can’t be inverted makes this a non-issue.

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    • Fenderfreek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Orientation of hot vs neutral

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  • bampop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Those 3 way plug outlets are pretty cool

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  • LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I prefer the Tesla system. Wireless power. But yeah, something with Edison or something. And these days Tesla is a nazi thing so never mind I guess

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• filcuk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I do prefer English plugs. Euro can wear out or just not hold in as well if they’re cheaply made. Never ever had that issue with English ones.

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  • LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Never had that issue with euro plugs. Downside of UK plugs is there’s only one orientation you can plug them in. And those plugs are really chunky. I have many synths, with many power plugs, I wouldn’t know how to plug them all in at the same time. I would need maaaany power strips.

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• Pilferjinx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Couldn’t they’ve made it in a smaller form factor?

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  • bollybing@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Europlugs are small, similar to us plugs. But the bulky schuko is very common in Europe. Europlugs are compatible with schuko sockets and many others.

    You can fit two or three europlug sockets in the same amount of space as one schuko or British socket.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug

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    • bampop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Put a schuko adaptor on a UK plug and you have a device for fucking up schuko sockets

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    • k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Ooh, I don’t think I saw those in my trip to Europe over a decade ago. They’re nice; they look so much more compact.

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  • LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not safely with 240V. The smaller US plugs can only take 120V. The benifit of the larger plugs is they are more rigit, don’t come out easily and provide proper insulation. Thin EU plugs exist, but aren’t sufficient for heavy users. Lamps and phone chargers have the narrow plugs because they don’t pull as much power but a heavy device needs a bigger safer plug. Like a microwave, a PC or a table saw.

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