Comment on Everyone Is Cheating Their Way Through College

• lemmyng@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Do you know the main function of freshmen courses? It’s to make sure that every student has the same base knowledge before going into sophomore level courses. It’s giving the students from shitty high school backgrounds an opportunity to catch up with those from private schooling and those from school boards that didn’t provide sufficient challenges. These courses don’t need a higher teacher to student ratio, they just need students to pay attention to the lectures and talk to the TA if they’re stuck.

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  • gibmiser@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Except you have forgotten the reason we are having this conversation is that they aren’t learning in those situations because of rampant cheating.

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    • TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      People still cheat in smaller classroom settings.

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• catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  For classes that’s are mostly lectures, it doesn’t need it.

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  • agent_nycto@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sounds like there needs to be a change for how people are educated then.

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• Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “But how will we keep our enormous administrative overhead to ourselves?”

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• TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You’re advocating for quantity over quality. You will easily find situations where students don’t learn in small groups because the professor lecturing that group isn’t a good professor.

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  • ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m not excluding hiring good teachers and TAs from the picture. I’m not excluding paying them a good enough wage to attract talent either. But that’s another conversation.

    In my university days lectures were paired with seminars. And those had a max size of about 30, and a TA who would explain and help apply the lecture knowledge. The lecturer would visit seminars on rotation and ensure the quality of TAs. And the kicker? The whole gang would be there for the (free form) exam, including the grading.

    In short: it can be done because that’s where we come from, actually.

    And personally I hate multi choice tests, there is no opportunity to see the thought process of the student, or find and be lenient towards those that got the theory, but forgot to carry a 1 somewhere. They simplified the grading, sure, now you can have a machine do it, but thats about it.

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