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Comment on Everyone Is Cheating Their Way Through College
Donjuanme@lemmy.world 1 day agoVery easy to tell if someone knows what they wrote about in a two minute conversation. My wife grades/t.a’s at a university, it’s obvious when someone doesn’t know the information in person (and she’s very understanding towards people who cannot verbalize the information but still know it). The old professors aren’t very keen to it, but the graders can very easily smell the bullshit.
And if you know the information well enough, but send it through gpt for editing/refinement, that’s usually accepted, unless you’re in a class that grades on composition.
Olap@lemmy.world 1 day ago
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Even back around 2006, my biology teacher did exams on paper only, with questions that are free response only. Even AI and cheating aside, people get way too lucky with multiple choice exams
lemmyng@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
That may work in senior courses, but a freshman class with hundreds of students needs standardized tests.
Feyd@programming.dev 1 day ago
Or maybe a freshman class with hundreds of students should be split into more classes with more emphasis on actually learning
lemmyng@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I don’t know how you extrapolate “no emphasis on learning” from “large classes”. The classes are large because they can afford to be large. They teach introductory courses, and their goal is to even out the baseline before the students go into sophomore courses. Freshmen come from many different education systems - private vs public, local vs out of state/province/country, fresh out of school vs returning to education after working, etc. This is also why these courses can be graded with standardized testing, because they set the standard themselves.
ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Here’s a novel idea, maybe it needs less students per teacher. Or more teachers per student, however you want to call it.
lemmyng@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Do you know the main function of freshmen courses? It’s to make sure that every student has the same base knowledge before going into sophomore level courses. It’s giving the students from shitty high school backgrounds an opportunity to catch up with those from private schooling and those from school boards that didn’t provide sufficient challenges. These courses don’t need a higher teacher to student ratio, they just need students to pay attention to the lectures and talk to the TA if they’re stuck.
catloaf@lemm.ee 1 day ago
For classes that’s are mostly lectures, it doesn’t need it.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 day ago
“But how will we keep our enormous administrative overhead to ourselves?”
TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 day ago
You’re advocating for quantity over quality. You will easily find situations where students don’t learn in small groups because the professor lecturing that group isn’t a good professor.
j4yt33@feddit.org 13 hours ago
And yet, weirdly, it works in other parts of the world