Comment on ‘The Worst Internet-Research Ethics Violation I Have Ever Seen’ | The most persuasive “people” on a popular subreddit turned out to be a front for a secret AI experiment.

ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It could, if it annoumced itself as such.

  Instead it pretended to be a rape victim and offered “its own experience”.

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  • Fleur_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Blaming a language model for lying is like charging a deer with jaywalking.

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      the researchers said all AI posts were approved by a human before posting, it was their choice how many lies to include

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    • tribut@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Nobody is blaming the AI model. We are blaming the researchers and users of AI, which is kind of the point.

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    • echolalia@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Which, in an ideal world, is why AI generated comments should be labeled.

      I always break when I see a deer at the side of the road.

      (Yes people can lie on the Internet. If you funded an army of propagandists to convince people by any means necessary I think you would find it expensive. People generally find lying like this to feel bad. It would take a mental toll. With AI, this looks possible for cheaper.)

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      • Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m glad Google still labels the AI overview in search results so I know to scroll further for actually useful information.

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  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That was definitely inappropriate, but it would still have been inappropriate if it was made up by a human rather than by an AI. I think it’s useful to distribute between bad things that happen to be done by an AI and things that are bad specifically because they are done by an AI. How would you feel about an AI that didn’t lie or deceive but also didn’t announce itself as an AI?

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    • sinceasdf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I think when posting on a forum/message board it’s assumed you’re talking to other people, so AI should always announce itself as such. That’s probably a pipe dream though.

      If anyone wants to specifically get an AI perspective they can go to an AI directly. They might add useful context to people’s forum conversations, but there should be a prioritization of actual human experiences there.

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I think when posting on a forum/message board it’s assumed you’re talking to other people

        That would have been a good position to take in the early days of the Internet, it is a very naive assumption to make now. Even in the 2010s actors with a large amount of resources (state intelligence agencies, advertisers, etc) could hire human beings from low wage English speaking countries to generate fake content online.

        LLMs have only made this cheaper, to the point where I assume that most of the commenters on political topics are likely bots.

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