Comment on That's all folks, Plex is starting to charge for sharing
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 week agoYou can if you don’t pay.
No, you can’t.
The only thing they’re blocking is traffic through their servers. If you expose the port to your local instance, they have no control over it.
Once again, this is wrong. They are blocking traffic to your server even if you don’t go through theirs, unless you pay.
You cannot do what you’re suggesting if you don’t pay.
Revilo62@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yes you can. If you know what you’re doing with networking, the Plex instance will have no idea whether you’re remote or not. You can make every remote user look like they’re internal to your network. Plex would have no way to stop that. They could incorporate more intense DRM, requiring things like same GPS location, but even that could likely be spoofed.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You’re saying two completely different incompatible things. In your last comment you said “You can just forward a port”. You can’t “just forward a port” or do any of the other things you suggested with Plex for free. Period.
The second thing you’re saying is using a VPN to trick Plex into thinking you’re local. You may be able to do that, but that’s entirely different from “just forwarding a port” or using a reverse proxy, or any of the other normal, easy ways to remotely stream over Jellyfin. It’s not only more work than sharing Jellyfin, but it’s also very limiting based on your users devices. For example, many people are streaming Plex, Emby, Jellyfin on RokuTVs. RokuTVs have an app for Jellyfin that can just connect directly, but it does not have a Tailscale client. So if you want to trick Plex into thinking they’re local, you’d now have to pay money to get them a new device, and then you’d have the configure the VPN on it, and troubleshoot that when it breaks. A lot of people are going to just opt for Jellyfin which is much easier and doesn’t require buying new hardware.
Revilo62@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You don’t need a VPN to trick Plex. Exposing the web ui to the world will likely show traffic coming from your router, which is internal. If it doesn’t, you may have to mess with some settings, but a VPN isn’t required to access the web ui.
Jellyfin is also very limiting based on your users devices. There is no Jellyfin app for Samsung TVs (without sideloading) or Playstation. Users there are shit out of luck.
The thing you’re failing to grasp is that Jellyfin is not nearly as simple as you’re making it out to be. They both have trade offs. One or which being every single Jellyfin app is complete trash.
If Jellyfin works better for you fucking go for it, but claiming this is the death of Plex, Jellyfin is way easier, is laughable.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 week ago
This is not the case at all. That’s not how routing, nor port forwarding works. This will work on Jellyfin, but if you do it on Plex without paying, this will be blocked. You are still fundamentally misunderstanding how literally all of this works. And it’s getting to the point where I’m wondering if you’re actually this confidently ignorant, or if you’re just a troll, given the only comments on your account are pro-Plex and anti-Jellyfin.
Users there would be shit out of luck with Plex too, because neither of those platforms support Tailscale or any other VPN. More clients support Jellyfin than VPN apps, so if you’re not paying for Plex, then Jellyfin is less limiting than Plex.
What you’ve failed to grasp is that Jellyfin is exactly as simple as I’ve made it out to be. You can forward a port, give your client an address to pop in, and remote streaming will work flawlessly, for free. You cannot do that same process with Plex for free. Only if you pay for it.