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• tekato@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just in: Orange farmers are part of the police state because they sell oranges to the government, including policemen.

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  • omnioki@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    there’s a subtle difference, but if i’m following your logic, then weapons manufacturers have no moral/ethical responsibility for enabling war to happen? if you made a knife—harmless on its own, and then gave the knife to a murderer who then killed someone with it, are you not enabling?

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    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is Ford a part of the police state because they sell cars to them?

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      • omnioki@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        idk what their agreement is with them, but i’d venture to guess that they’re not not complicit.

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• papertowels@mander.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I just want to make sure you notice it says “encrypted messaging” meaning matrix as a service, as opposed to “encrypted messages”, meaning selling your messages.

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• fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Uhh this is a reach. By this logic so is Signal. And RedHat. Hell, even Mastodon.

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  • omnioki@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    sure, it’s nuanced, but imho there’s a difference between actively helping and propping up vs providing free software. when you have active contracts with entities that discriminate, it becomes a different ethical stance than simply building FOSS.

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    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thats fair, but simly using FOSS software doesn’t support the cause of the developers/creators. I mean, look at Lemmy.

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      • omnioki@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        yeah i can understand that viewpoint, and for all the matrix users i hope that remains true. maybe i’m just jaded, but i’ve been around long enough to know that just because a company isn’t a complete pile of shit now doesn’t mean they won’t be in the future—ESPECIALLY when you can see the company they keep (and defend).

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