Comment on Friday essay: ‘War has made me a pacifist’. Why are we so reluctant to acknowledge Australia’s anti-war veterans?

Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• hanrahan@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  b>ecause it’s stupid, pacifism doesn’t lead to less war, it leads to more suffering

  You’ve confised self dence and pacislfism, they are not the same thing. A pacifist will always supoort self defence, like the Palestinians in Gaza,.the Houthi are the only onea defemding them, Ukrianians againt Russia

  Australian’s in Turkey, or in Vietnam or Malaysia etc not so much.

  it’s the equivalent of saying don’t stand up to your bully just let him get away with it, in the end you lose and suffer more

  So you’re argument is that indigenous Australia’s should stull be fightibg against the invasion ? I can onky agree.

  There was a quote by Geronimo who said his biggest mistake was giving up, he said they should have fought on, even if they all died.

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  • sqgl@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A pacifist will always supoort self defence, like the Palestinians in Gaza

    October 7 was not self defense.

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    • eureka@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was an act of resistance to decades of besiegement and massacres by settlers. The situation was not peaceful beforehand, we cannot isolate that event and pretend that battle was sudden and unexpected. It’s fine to be critical of how it fought, but it was certainly an act of desperate national self defense against colonial settlement.

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      • sqgl@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes we can isolate it.

        Israel isn’t going anywhere despite the Hamas “From the river to the sea…” delusion.

        Palestinians aren’t going anywhere either but now we have extreme right wingers in Israel adopting a similar catchphrase.

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• eureka@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Out of the conflicts Australia has fought in, I can only think of one or two involving any threat to us.

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