If only there were modern day examples like Russia, Hungary, and even the US; or historical examples like Nazi Germany, to show where this “what about the children” excuse could lead us to…
b3an@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Taking this with a grain of salt coming from the UK. The same UK who really wants to backdoor encryption, and isn’t subject to the EU (Brexit).
It’s shitty that CSAM is a problem, but it’s not a solution to backdoor encryption and vacuum everyone’s data. This is what would happen. It starts with ‘protecting the children’ and moves quickly into abuse of privilege.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
primemagnus@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
They only wanted a back door for regular citizens. The governments would always be secure.
So that tells you everything you need to know.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
The governments need encryption less than regular citizens. Wolves and sheep are not equal, one wolf among hundreds of sheep is still safe. It’s the sheep who need protection against that wolf. They’ll still have their hard power in any case.
Rin@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Too bad you can’t outlaw math
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
You can, you also can have very seamless and unnoticeable surveillance over those few who would put effort into protecting their privacy.
There’s a rule of the thumb here: if someone with power doesn’t yet do what’s clearly unacceptable and outrageous, but does painful things which are not but on the fringe, this means you just don’t know what they are really doing. It’s the same with Russia, it’s state security services were never hindered by any laws, but less visibility of that helps reduce public pressure.
When someone even approaches backdoors, surveillance, nothing to hide nothing to fear, we know better, we can’t have direct democracy here, we have institutions and rules, all that, - even in words, - then you should start killing them. Immediately.
It only seems to have many years to have totalitarianism and mafia rule all together. In reality this happens in a few weeks. You had transparency and rules and responsible citizens and democracy, a week passes, and you have undocumented prisons where people die without being convicted, surveillance of anyone even to walk near something of interest, “politicians” all knowing each other for decades, no real grassroot movements at all, even fake grassroot movements’ leaders being murdered in plain sight and never properly investigated. All this happens momentarily. The slow transition is only in appearance and only to reduce effort spent on damage control.