Comment on Swapping out red meat and creamy pasta sauce could significantly cut household emissions, Australian research finds

NOT_RICK_SANCHEZ@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• dwazou@jlai.lu ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Actually, we need to tax private jets and eat a bit less red meat.

  It’s not one or the other.

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  • dumblederp@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Eating less meat et al is something we can personally do. The very wealthy have massive carbon footprints, mainly due to their ability to consume resources. It’s like I still pick up my dog’s shit at the park even though not everyone does. Giving up because not everyone is trying to care for the environment is definitely not the solution.

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• ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Collective action on a wide scale far outpaces what Elon could do, and it’s not as though he would increase his personal consumption to counteract what thousands of others do.

  We need to keep in mind the overall picture, and not let other people continuing harmful practices to stop us from trying to reduce ours. Otherwise nothing would ever get better.

  “I’m not going to drive less or use a bicycle because the rich use jets.”

  “I’m not going to install balcony solar because the rich waste energy with factories and mansions.”

  “I’m not going to consume less because the rich consume more than me.”

  These mindsets stifle positive change that can genuinely make a difference, especially when we are so short on time.

  Also, there are now extremely good plant based red meat alternatives like qlQuorn, Impossible, or on a budget, Seitan. All of which that allow us to continue to use our meat based favorite recipes without contributing to climate change (and lower bowel cancer risks :D), letting us give elon the finger without sacrificing anything.

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  • BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Just putting an opinion out there, I don’t know how widely liked it is. Quorn was not a good alternative (I say this purely based on personal taste).

    Started eating it in 2010, but haven’t touched it since 2019 with all the other alternatives that you can easily get now.

    Coles branded seitan was really our favourite but they discontinued it.

    Anyway, the amount of stuff I always had to add to Quorn to make it taste alright… what a time.

    But yeah, I’m a meat eating guy and my partner is vegetarian, but for a while now I’ve been mixing it up with fake meats to try and eat less red meat.

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    • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’ve had a similar experience with other alternatives like Soy curls, which I got to taste good a couple times but strangely could never replicate, and ended up just tasting like adding cereal to me. And Beyond beef, which has an off flavor from the pea protein base.

      Quorn seemed to have no off flavor to me or my family, it seemed totally neutral, and they couldn’t tell the difference in tacos, chili, stuffed peppers, etc. I was surprised it wasn’t more popular based on how long its been around.

      Maybe there’s a genetic component that’s influencing our flavor perception of it? like how saccharine can taste terrible to people due to genetic differences, limiting its use in soda or candy.

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      • BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        In the end, Tacos was the only thing I liked using Quorn for, I think because even with beef mince tacos I would spice it with so much cumin and paprika.

        But it was really good for tacos.

        When I used it for bolognese, just awful.

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• somedev@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I just remember the huge reduction in global emissions/pollution when international flights were grounded.

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• melbaboutown@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yes. It sucks that the onus is further being put on individuals. While companies and luxuries that consume energy or pollute on a massive scale don’t seem to face the same restrictions

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