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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Is there a video? I don’t see it in this post or in the linked initiative.

I’m not in the EU, so I’m really not familiar with this process, and I’m guessing a number of EU citizens also aren’t familiar. If there’s any related information, it would be good to link it.

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Pardon me. That’s an assumption on my part that the people in this community are the types that are so ingrained in this stuff that you’ve seen that video, and a link to this petition, a dozen times at this point. This is a campaign organized by Ross Scott at Accursed Farms. The main video pitch is here, and the super short version is here.

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- sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Awesome, thanks! This is literally the first time I’ve seen this petition, so I appreciate the extra info. I also wasn’t sure if it was part of Stop Killing Games or a separate initiative (looks like it’s at the 26min mark of the longer video).
  
  I’m in the US (looks like Ross Scott is too?) so I obviously can’t sign it, but I am very much interested on the outcome since it’ll likely impact me. If it’s strictly limited to SP games, that’s a lot less interesting since that can easily be region locked (so it would just be the same as piracy for me), but if it also forces release of server code, then I’m getting something I couldn’t before.
  
  For US people, there’s still hope. It looks like Louis Rossmann is pissed off about this as well, but from a regular software perspective (Odyssee and YouTube), so he might try something similar to what he did with Right to Repair. He has a bit wider reach and probably a very different audience, and maybe he can help get something going in the US.
  
  Thanks for the links, I’ll see what I can do to spread the word.
  
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  - ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I don’t really follow Ross Scott outside of this campaign, but I believe he’s a US citizen married to a Polish woman, living in Poland. It sounds like it would take an act of Congress to change things here in the US. My e-mails to my representatives have gone functionally unanswered, which doesn’t mean it isn’t worth trying.
    
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    sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Yes, but it can start at the state legislature, which is a lot easier. But you need a lobbying campaign to get anywhere. Louis Rossmann has made some progress this way by banding together with farmers, and while it’s painful and expensive, it does work.
    
    So if we’re going to do something in the US, we need a lobbiest, a lawyer (to draft a bill), and a lot of people to show up and give testimony. But we only need to win in one state, and then it gets a lot easier. So:
    
    Pick a state with good consumer protections and a market segment that’s somewhat rated to what you want (video games probably won’t work, but other software could)
    
    Work with pissed off companies to put together a lobby
    
    Find a few reps that care (e.g. the reps for those companies’ districts), and get them to sponsor your bill
    
    Appeal to regular people saying this is a stepping stone to what they actually want
    
    Get people to annoy their reps, show up to hearings, etc in support of the bill
    
    Get the bill to the floor (crazy amount of effort)
    
    If the bill passes, start the process over in the next state, which should go smoother
    
    Once you have legal precedent, repeat the process with a small expansion to the thing you actually care about. This should be a lot easier, because you’re just expanding the same rights to more types of customers.
    
    It’s much more of a long shot, but it does seem possible.
    
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