Comment on The Social Network That Can't Sell Out: Understanding Mastodon vs. Bluesky

kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t think anybody who administers a mastodon server thinks it’s superior technology.

  What mastodon isn’t is funded by fashy techbro asswipe VCs who will turn it into a torment nexus over time, just like X and Meta and Alphabet.

  So Mastodon will continue to attract a small minority of people who don’t feel safe or wanted on a fashbro site. And that’s fine. I want to talk to people who think I’m human, not a bunch of Andrew Tate gargling fuck heads.

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• coacoamelky@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Feeling like the mastodon crowd are preaching on soap boxes here. Not a bad product but will it attract the general public, probably not .

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  • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When they are out of sinking ships to scurry to.

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    • khaleer@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People prefer to drown than pick option which is not corporate bullshit. Bluesky won because it’s centralized, and people don’t have to decide over instance.

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      • naught101@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Why are you on Lemmy? Or, why do you think the decentralised model works here, but not on mastodon?

        Or is it only working because there is no third party VC-backed reddit clone?

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      • Glitchvid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think it’s “the algorithm”, people basically just want to be force-fed “content” – look how successful TikTok is, largely because it has an algorithm that very quickly narrows down user habits and provides endless distraction.

        Mastodon and fediverse alternatives by comparison have very simple feeds and ways to surface content, it simple doesn’t “hook” people the same way, and that’s competition.

        On one hand we should probably be doing away with “the algorithm” for reasons not enumerated here for brevity, but on the other hand maybe the fediverse should build something to accommodate this demand, otherwise the non-fedi sites will.

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    • coacoamelky@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That never seems to happen though

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      • naught101@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Twitter is the first time a global social media giant has seen a major exodus (I guess the second if you count MySpace, but the reasons were pretty different). The sample size is very low… It’s easy to forget how new all of this is.

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• naught101@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t think anyone is claiming technical superiority. And certainly not financial superiority.

  But maybe some kind of resilience to the forces of destruction plaguing commercial social media.

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  • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But maybe some kind of resilience to the forces of destruction plaguing commercial social media.

    This isn’t going to be the effective slogan that turns the masses who are finally just barely starting to fill Bluesky.

    As soon as any platform sees a measure of success, it becomes a product and thus vulnerable. If we want social media that isn’t just a massive propaganda and advertising machine, I feel like we need to change something else.

    Like physically storming corporate offices and returning the means of production to the people?

    Maybe.

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    • naught101@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The mastodon is not a platform though, it’s a protocol/standard and the software to run it. Individual mastodon services/platforms will come and go. I think if they become too much of a product (and enshittify), then people will leave, because they can without much pain.

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