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mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks agoWe have a different definition of troll I think. To me trolls are bad faith actors hiding racism and other disinclusive speech behind humor.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 weeks ago
Ah. It used to be just someone that would say something so inflammatory or provoking that it would force interaction or responses from the people witnessing it.
Like an obvious joke or quote of an earworm that it creates replies. Or sometimes something rude or just wrong on purpose. Modern bad actors adopting trolling tactics is not necessarily the same thing.
You could say trolls are like onions, they have multiple coatings.
eatCasserole@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No no, ogres are like onions.
MarPan@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Weren’t ogres more like cake though? Everybody loves cake.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Or parfaits!
mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I’ve been online since newsreaders were king. I try to use the current usage of words. I fully understand that trolling has been coopted by bad faith actors.
Originally it was a fun little bit of sarcasm or an inside joke that became a proto meme or some copypasta to share around.
Now it’s a path to the US presidency.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I guess it’s like “hacking.” In the good old days, a “hacker” was a particularly clever software developer, now it’s someone who breaks into computers.
Can we please stop ruining the good words?
mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Hacking is using something in a manner in which it was unintended by hacking parts of it, as with an axe.
Good discussion of it here with etymological references.
…stackexchange.com/…/what-does-the-word-hacking-o…
peculiar_goat@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
A definition I saw many years ago was something like a troll tricks you into feeling a certain way or doing a specific thing. Could be positive, mostly done for humour, but the ones we hear most about in the media or whatever are the upsetting ones.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 weeks ago
Yeah the best ones are just taking advantage of our empathetic neurons to initiate a conversation. The terrifying ones then use that opening to inject their own thoughts on others.