Comment on Update on the recent CSAM issues

47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Demigodrick@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It is something we almost turned on pretty early on with the original spam wave, but decided not to at the time because of the added complications for new users, and because it might put people off joining lemmy.zip if they want a space to create genuine communities.

  Its a tricky one to balance, which is why I only really want to introduce it in response to something - as it stands, we have built a respectful awesome community here with very few issues, and I dont think its a measure we need. However, happy to get wider feedback from the users here if this is something they want to see introduced. Maybe with a three day and 10 score minimum or something like that.

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  • odigo2020@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Personally, I think that’s an absolutely fair barrier to place, and is very similar to the one I used when I moderated my town’s subreddit, which caught an incredible amount of bots and bad actors before they could cause problems. But I appreciate your desire to hold off on implementing something like that until it’s necessary.

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    • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not really a Fan of using score as a gatekeeping method due to the fact that it in a way discriminates against users who disagree with others (downvotes are typically awarded to people who have unpopular opinions) similar to Reddit Karma requirements, and even as it is, there’s nothing that stops people from gaining the system and up-voting their own posts from puppet accounts in other instances (or even from accounts on this instance). It could also lead to people being maliciously downvoted by others to try and block them from meeting requirements.

      If downvotes were disabled and the amount required was higher I wouldn’t think it’s as bad since you can’t go down, only up, though it’s still not good due to the fact that it essentially encourages vote manipulation and Karma farming. There’s a reason Score isn’t shown by default, the Reddit way just doesn’t work on the Fediverse where vote manipulation can’t be adequately policed.

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      • Demigodrick@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, that’s a valid concern and I’ll take that on board. Maybe the requirement should be that the score isn’t within a ± bracket to evidence engagement, and it’s only one of the measures that is checked (post count and account age being two other measures that come to mind) when deciding if someone is a genuine actor or not.

        Thankfully it’s not something we need at the moment but always good to have a plan.

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