Comment on Framework temporarily pausing some laptop sales in the US due to tariffs
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 days agoImagine even a business that is supposed to benefit from tariffs, like garment manufacturing. Previously it wasn’t worth it because other countries could do it cheaper. So, now you could set up a garment factory and start making things in the US. You can buy cotton from Texas, spin it into yarn, make that yarn into cloth, do it all from seed to finished garment all in the USA.
But, can you really trust that these tariffs are going to be around for the long haul? If you invest $200k to start making clothing in the US, then Trump, the master negotiator, does a deal with Bangladesh and their tariffs go to zero again there’s no way you can compete and you’re out $200k.
Even if you’re extremely lucky and already had a US-based business that was surviving vs. overseas competition, would now be a good time to ramp up production? Sure, your goods are now much cheaper than your competitor’s goods, but with the economy cratering is anybody going to be buying?
There are times when tariffs can work extremely well for certain lucky companies, but they have to be targeted long-term tariffs. Not this chaos.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
The economy isn’t cratering, the stock market is. The stock market is all about where investors think future profitability will be, whereas the economy is about jobs and consumer spending behavior. They’re related, but different concepts. Hopefully the economy weathers this nonsense.
merc@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
And if investors think the future is extremely bleak they will cancel plans to expand, “right-size” their workforce, and so-on, which will smash the economy. The future looks incredibly bleak right now. Many businesses have stopped ordering at all from China because they have no idea what the tariffs will be once the goods arrive.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
It all depends on how long the tariffs stay and what deals other countries make. A huge stock downturn can cause economic issues, but usually it’s the other way around.