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Comment on EU considers tariffs on digital services Big Tech

It’s not about the providers, it’s about the move. Companies will need to migrate their infrastructure to another platform which (let’s be honest) likely will not have the bandwidth / rack space / hardware to support the influx of users. Companies will self host? Okay sure: time to spin up internal clusters, train employees, provision additional bandwidth / connections. And naturally - this will all go off without a hitch. Like flipping a switch.

And we need to remember that many of these services rely on each other so one goes down: they take each other out.

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person1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
inertia is a thing, but just by having new EU projects avoid the big three you’d already have done a world of good to the IT ecosystem.

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- yggstyle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  100%
  
  Germany is providing an open source solution to gsuite (which I haven’t looked at yet) but am told it’s pretty good. More open and more choice is great.
  
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Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
This is why you give notice; this isn’t an overnight thing. If anything, this would help strengthen and decentralize hosting platforms while giving a huge amount of business to companies to help them migrate.

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- yggstyle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Notice or not any infrastructure change is brutal - even if you go like for like.
  
  I’m not saying I’m against the idea: I loathe all the centralization and robber barons running around in this era. But switches like these rarely go as planned. If haste is required even less so.
  
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  - Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Oh I get it. We made the jump from Google Cloud to AWS, and I’m sure there are companies that are even more vendor locked. But a good example of what people can do when they don’t have a choice is the new PCI 4.0 roll out that has cost companies millions they wouldn’t spend unless made to do so. Will it be a mountain to climb and cost a ton, yeah, but change in the right direction isn’t always easy.
    
    I’m with you, it will be hard, and they need a good system for extensions and the like, with a reasonable time line. But this is good change IMO, even if it’s painful.
    
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Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I’d double my mortgage just to see microsoft365 crumble.

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- yggstyle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  But you love teams right?! (get the gas can - I’ll get the matches)
  
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  - futatorius@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I love to wish it on my worst enemies.
    
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  - Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    There is no feature that is simpler than gsuite. So much duplication and needless services and apps.
    
    I hate google and microsoft for making me appreciate their product.
    
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rbos@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Or they’ll just pay the extra money and avoid all that.

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- yggstyle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  That is pretty much how the VMware situation shook out.
  
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  - rbos@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Yeah, we’ve got on-prem cloud hosting at a university, and moving away from VMware is an ongoing process. Still. Two, three years after the writing was on the wall. They’d rather pay the Danegeld.
    
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futatorius@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
That entirely depends on who deeply they’ve locked themselves into a single-vendor set of services. If they used an abstraction tool to hide vendor-specific implementation detail, and were moderately smart, it’d take little besides minor config changes, redeployment and some regression testing.

Source: I’ve done it.

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- yggstyle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  were moderately smart
  
  This is mostly the problem in a lot of cases. A lot of companies don’t pay you to be smart… they pay you to be “efficient” which normally means cheap.
  
  Good and skilled people may be in a lot of these companies… but their hands may be tied in terms of choices.
  
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