These performance results are only from the browser side, but dont cover server performance. The database for lemmy.ml is 60 GB, and that is with 6 years of history. Not sure where your 10x claim comes from. The lemmy.ml server costs 70 Euros per month and doesnt have much load.
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rimu@piefed.social 3 days agoWe won't 100% know the answer to that until we get there. But in 2025 fear of a lack of CPU cores is NOT what keeps me awake at night.
Early performance results are positive. Check these links out:
https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/13/technical-performance-of-each-fediverse-platform/
https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/09/comparing-network-utilization-of-lemmy-kbin-and-piefed/
There are many many ways to ruin web app performance and choice of backend language is not really a big one. It's what you do with it that counts.
https://piefed.social is running on a low end VPS which costs $7.50 per month. Load average is about 1.45 during the busiest part of the day. Most of the load is caused by federating with lemmy.world and that won't increase as more users come on board.
PieFed is already really efficient with storage. After 16 months of operation, subscribed to every popular community, the piefed.social DB is 30 GB and the media storage is 28 GB. A Lemmy instance would be 10x that.
nutomic@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
The lemmy.ml server costs 70 Euros per month and doesnt have much loa, with almost 10 times as many active users.
I know the 0.03€ per user per month has been known for a while, but it still impresses me.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
That’s nice info, thanks! Do you know why the db difference?
rimu@piefed.social 2 days ago
I've never seen a Lemmy DB, sorry.
Emperor@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Can confirm. When we took over the running of feddit.uk migrating the images took forever as it was around 300GB.
rglullis@communick.news 2 days ago
Migrating the images as in media? The discussion is about database sizes.
The biggest DB I have is the one from alien.top, which got close to deal with 600k mirrored bots and 10M posts + comments. The database was clocking around 25GB.
monarch@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Thats super impressive. I need to take a look at hosting a personal instance just for the fun of it if its really what it costs.
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 days ago
Full disclosure: I like Python a lot and have written a lot of it.
That said, if not for my recent work experiences, I would be absolutely horrified at the idea of using Python for such a project. Between the type system and being interpreted, the performance and runtime issues are pretty painful. That and the historical greater dependence on external application servers really makes Python-based services something that really sucks to administer.
However, as I noted, I have also recently seen Python performing far faster than it has any right to with highly-optimized use of multi-processing and offloading the server stuff to Go.
I think I’m going to have to take a look at Piefed source this weekend.
rimu@piefed.social 2 days ago
Cool! Before you dive in, check this out https://join.piefed.social/docs/developers/