Comment on The Switch 2 Rollout Was So Convoluted It Made Us Want A Steam Deck.

• gamer@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Why not? Just because the Switch 2 can do 4k60 doesn’t mean it’s super powerful. Thd Switch 1 was obsolete when it launched, so a hardware upgrade over that could be literally anything. For reference, even the Raspberry Pi can do 4k60 nowadays.

  Afaik, Switch 2 specs haven’t been revealed (have they?) so we don’t know yet what to expect, but considering it’s a handheld it will likely have similar power constraints to the Deck, possibly even more to achieve longer battery life. (But tbf, the deck is relatively old by now and could itself benefit from an upgrade). As far as emulation, we at least know Nintendo considered it worth the effort to try to take down all Switch 1 emulators before even revealing fhe Switch 2, probably suggesting it’s not going to be hard to emulate.

  The trailer mentions that the Switch 2 can do 4k60 when docked only on some games. Just knowing Nintendo’s cheap asses, I doubt you’ll get that from any significant 3D title. It’ll probably be limited mostly to 2D titles, simple 3D ones, or maybe some hyper-polished first party titles. I doubt you’ll see that in the new Bloodborne, possibly not even 120 while in handheld either.

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  • randomname@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The steam deck just barely emulates the switch, so I think switch 2 emulation is out of the question unless there is serious performance hacks. Ryujinx likely would have been able to emulate the switch 2 one or two years after launch just like what happened with dolphin and the Wii. but Nintendo illegally got them shut down

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    • gamer@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The steam deck just barely emulates the switch

      Wdym? Last I tried it, Switch emulation on the Deck was nearly perfect. I played the entirety of Metroid Dread on it with zero issues, and a couple of other games (Breath of the Wild, Smash, and Odyssey)

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      • randomname@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I am pretty sensitive to stutter and 1% lows, so maybe I’m just being nit picky. what fixed it for me was downloading a complete shader cache for the games I had stutter problems with.

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  • kratoz29@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why not?

    Let’s be objective here, can you really see the Steam Deck emulating the Cyberpunk 2077 game of the Switch 2? I know there is not a reason to do this, but these kinds of achievements are what I mean with “perfect emulation”.

    But tbf, the deck is relatively old by now and could itself benefit from an upgrade

    I have no doubts that a Steam Deck 2 will emulate Switch 2 games… But everyone keeps telling me this won’t happen soon enough…

    As far as emulation, we at least know Nintendo considered it worth the effort to try to take down all Switch 1 emulators before even revealing fhe Switch 2, probably suggesting it’s not going to be hard to emulate.

    That is one opinion, my personal one is that they just did it because they can still benefit from the sales of the Switch 1 games as the console is retrocompatible, so of course they would want you to pay for them instead of emulating them… Think of it as when they were actively blocking flashcarts that launched games for the DS in the 3DS.

    It’ll probably be limited mostly to 2D titles, simple 3D ones, or maybe some hyper-polished first party titles

    Perhaps, but what we know as of now is that Metroid Prime 4 was announced to run at 4K 60 FPS/1080p 60 FPS which I think the current Steam Deck will not be able to achieve (it doesn’t even have such resolutions), perhaps 720p 120 FPS is doable, but if it can’t perfectly emulate the Switch 2 then I don’t see it as a viable Switch 2 replacement.

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    • gamer@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “perfect emulation”

      With a setup like this, you can keep moving the goal post until you win all your little internet arguments. Personally, I’m not a fanboy for neither Nintendo nor Valve, so I really don’t care to get into this kind of atgument.

      My point is that there’s no reason to think the Switch 2 can’t be emulated on the Deck, at least not until we get more information.

      I think the current Steam Deck will not be able to achieve (it doesn’t even have such resolutions)

      The Steam Deck supports 4k60 just fine, just not on the built-in display ofc.

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      • kratoz29@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I have never cared about winning Internet arguments, nor I have been surprised with such a reply, so there is a first time for everything I guess.

        My point is that there’s no reason to think the Switch 2 can’t be emulated on the Deck, at least not until we get more information.

        Also there is not a reason to believe that it will emulate Switch 2 games… What I can almost guarantee is that it won’t be as smooth as it does with Switch 1 games, unless we talk about less demanding games ofc.

        The Steam Deck supports 4k60 just fine, just not on the built-in display ofc.

        TIL, so docked emulation could be something (I suppose it gets more power plugged in as well).

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