If maintained by the right people
That’s a very big if
ai would actually reduce exploitation
In an ideal world maybe. In reality, I can only see it being used as a reason to pay animators even less or where animators become proof checkers. The real exploitation is animators not being paid enough, not the amount of time they put in. AI would not solve this.
Ai opens up animation to new voices, that wouldn’t be able to animate
Like? People that don’t want to put in the effort to get good? Unless you’re disabled, anyone can animate. It just takes a lot of effort to get good at it. But if anyone puts in that effort that means you’re passionate about it and they’re precisely the kind of you want in animation.
This is almost starting to look like the Photoshop doomsday all over again.
Not remotely the same imo. One is a new tool that doesn’t try to replace the creator, the other does try to replace the creator.
If you support minorities having a chance at jobs, you should also support the potential for more animators having new opportunities to create animations.
What a weird equivalence. How does supporting minorities equate to supporting more AI-gen? It implies they wouldn’t get the job without AI, which is much more problematic.
Ai also means you might actually get more content of a show made in an official means
I don’t see how that’s a good thing. Let’s not milk existing IPs any more than we already do. It’s just an opportunity for more slop.
rob400@ani.social 6 days ago
There are shows that only had to seasons or even less. Even shows with just 5 episodes or less. Never seen the light of day since, in decades. Fans have been begging. Ai gives that opportunity. This issue i’m describing isn’t about releasing more slop, it’s about giving shows the chance that fans been saying they deserved since their cancellations. The original Teen titians ended at a cliff hanger, and if Warner bros isn’t going to finish it, well, now the fans can easily with ai.
Supporting minorities actually has a lot to do with ai. Why? Because, like I already said, ai gives the animation medium new voices. By having more people having the ability to provide their own idea of an animation with ai, you end up with potentially more *new animations made.
ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 6 days ago
The core issue here is companies not giving a shit. AI wouldn’t change that. If WB, with all those resources, who could’ve continued TT any time they wanted, suddenly generated a new season of TT with AI, would you really be satisfied with that? If they didn’t give a shit then, they won’t give a shit now.
This would amount to nothing more than fan fiction though. Fans already have the means to do so without AI, and already do with fan comics, fan animation, fan games and fan novels. Sure not to the same scale, but that gap would remain. Having AI do it changes nothing here.
Who though? What minorities are you speaking of? Again, nearly everyone can animate, as long as you put in the effort to get good at it.
rob400@ani.social 6 days ago
The same scale, is actually very important, since we’re talking about fans using ai to finish projects. Is it fan fiction, perhaps, but it’l have the same quality standard from the oiginal show, and since ai can even recreate the voices, that’s also a plus for the fans.
Here are few practical examples of who would benefit in the artist side of things from ai, but not limited to, disabled people, and people that, just can’t draw good, and don’t want to go through the process of learning to draw who might have all the ideas in the world that never get utilized because they couldn’t draw to standards, etc
Now I just thought of this. Lets say you are someone who’s made a comic, but you don’t have the money to pay a big studio, and a bunch of voice actors to do your show. Ai lets you do the voices of the characters you created as you intended them as the creator of the comic in a smaller budget.
ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 6 days ago
The scale wouldn’t be the same though. Big productions will still have way more resources available than fans. The discrepancy would much more likely remain largely the same.
That’s a bold claim.There’s no guarantee of that at all.
Those aren’t minorities. Drawing is, for the most part, a skill you can learn. If you don’t want to put in the effort to learn to draw, then why would someone put time into watching what you prompted to an AI? Granted, the amount of effort is probably not the same for everyone, but the point still stands. Even the most talented ones put in hours of practice.
If you have a lot of ideas, there are tons of other roles you can fulfill in creative productions like scriptwriting, directing, producing and tons more. Animation productions don’t just rely on people that can draw. If you want to help, help in the way you can with your own skills. That’s more satisfying in the long run anyway. Why would you want a role that you didn’t put effort into learning when there are people who did? That’d get boring pretty quickly.
In this hypothetical, why do you need to be on par with a big studio? What’s the problem with starting small? What’s the problem with asking amateur voice actors that aren’t that expensive or might even do it for free? Many voice actors, animators etc get their start with small projects like that. Without those, they’ll never even get the chance. AI generated projects only muddy the waters. Things aren’t perfect from the get-go and that’s fine. That’s kind of the point. You actually get to have a journey of growth. Find out what you’re good at. That’s way more satisfying. Maybe that won’t give you instant gratification and you’ll probably struggle along the way, but is that really a problem? Instant gratification will only last so long until you want more and more.