Comment on In China, It’s Already Cheaper to Buy EVs Than Gasoline Cars

TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• 1bluepixel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I was in China two months ago and the use of electric cars is honestly changing the feeling of big cities. Delivery motorcycles and service vehicles are all electric now, and with the number of electric cars on the road, streets are a lot quieter now barring the frequent honking. Less air pollution too.

  What I love and Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they’ve fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design to the car sounds. Made me feel like I was walking around a cyberpunk movie set.

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  • doublejay1999@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Cannot wait until EV replaces the noisy crotch rocket bikes .

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    • markr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There were already tons of ebikes on the streets when I was there in 2016. It was a bit of a problem as a pedestrian as they are super quiet and the practice is to drive those things pretty much without regard for any concept of pedestrian right of way. You learned to be ultra careful crossing any street.

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  • Yonrak@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I just got back from a business trip to China also. The high proportion of EVs, particularly in the southern cities like Guangzhou and Shenzhen really stood out to me, and many of them (particularly from BYD) looked really, really nice. They seemed less prominent in the more northern part of the country (e.g. Shenyang, Beijing), but even there I’d say they’re more common than in the UK.

    It was a real eye opener

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    • 1bluepixel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That was my experience as well. Very prevalent in Sichuan, but less so in Shanghai. Still, even in Shanghai, they were leagues ahead of Canada.

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      • Blastasaurus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I mean, there’s only 35 million people in Canada, a country with a larger land mass than China. The charging infrastructure in Canada is pitiful.

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  • FMT99@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Would be interesting to see. The Chinese EVs being pushed on the market here (Europe) are the typical ugly huge American SUV style.

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    • demlet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, American here. This isn’t a huge mystery. Electric cars here are expensive because people refuse to give up their giant vehicles. American culture is so gross…

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      • snowe@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Even small electric cars are expensive in America. The Kia ev6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5 and 6 are all quite “small” for American vehicles and they’re still 45k+

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      • phx@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Shouldn’t it be the opposite? If demand is low, then prices should correspondingly be down until adoption increases.

        Certainly the opposite is often used to just y increasing prices

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    • cyd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The batteries on some of these SUV EVs weigh as much as a car. It’s pretty silly.

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  • JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do you have pictures? I would love to see.

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    • 1bluepixel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I found this article from last year showing some interesting models. You’ll see the most popular EVs range from more classical designs to weird and retro-futuristic.

      Some of them also make futuristic noises when they drive around… The noise isn’t needed at all because the motor is pretty much silent, so they’re added by manufacturers so you hear them coming. I swear they sound like something out of a '90s sci-fi flick.

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      • cyd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Hope those are customizable. Can’t wait to load up the TIE Fighter engine sound.

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What I love about Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they’ve fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design to the car sounds.

    So, the Vaporwave color pallete?

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    • 1bluepixel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You kid, but yes!

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    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Love this, thanks

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  • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d really like to see more of this. Do you know some of the names of these super cool manufacturers / designs?

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    • coffee@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not the OP, but I live in China.

      Check out for example the Xpeng (Xiao Peng) G6 and P7, the Qiantu K50, Zeekr 009, Lynk & Co. 03, Aiways U5 and the Dongfeng Mengshi M-Hero 917 (now if that’s not HALO inspired, I don’t know…).

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      • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ah these are really cool, but I misread car and thought OP meant bikes. Americans will never be able to buy these sweet chinese cars.

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  • witten@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That all sounds wonderful, but don’t forget that brake dust accounts for even more pollution than tailpipe emissions in many locations. And as electric cars are heavier, they generate more brake dust than their combustion counterparts. I’m all for the switch to EVs, personally, but I think even then we’ve still got work to do.

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    • FunderPants@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This brake dust problem is not true. Just another in a line of deceiving , sounds right but isn’t, attacks on EVs from the fossil fuel industry and their allies. forbes.com/…/electric-cars-are-as-green-as-you-th…

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      • Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There is the tire problem, but 🤷‍♂️ That’s more of a “Americans want to buy giant things” problem, and the battery designs that are seemingly just around the corner are lighter

        news.yahoo.com/nasa-incredible-solid-state-batter…

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      • witten@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        TIL!! I was snookered. Thanks so much for sharing this.

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    • 3laws@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Electric cars use their brakes humongously less than ICE ones.

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    • redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I imagine electric cars would generate less brake dust due to their use of regenerative braking.

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  • TwinTusks@outpost.zeuslink.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What I love about Chinese electric car manufacturers is that they’ve fully embraced the cyberpunk aesthetic from the chassis design

    I actually think Chinese EVs are quite ugly.

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• Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  BYD has chosen not to approach the US market until at least 2030.

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• doublejay1999@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s only a matter of getting manufacturers to give the extra margin they’ve been creaming

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