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• Pirata@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think you’re also in a bubble though.

  Which is why I’m talking about people who aren’t terminally online degenerates like us.

  People who are largely apolitical, like my friends and family, none of them is supporting Russia.

  I even went to a few protests in front of the Russian embassy. Would you be surprised to know that there were exactly zero protests in front of the Ukrainian embassy in Russia’s defense?

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  • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m definitely in a bubble, not in a terminally online one though. I’d say I exist in two sphears that don’t overlap personally, rather spacially around me. One of them is an intellectual bubble that is overwhelmingly but not to a 100% full of people who oppose fascism of any flavour. The other one is a manual labourer or simple job worker bubble - I see a lot more diversity there, many people falling for different kinds of propaganda, superstition, fearmongering. Some of those are already hardcore nazis, some of them are sympathizers in some ways. They usually get informations from the TV, newspapers and friends, partially online as well - mostly Facebook.

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    • Pirata@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The other one is a manual labourer or simple job worker bubble - I see a lot more diversity there, many people falling for different kinds of propaganda, superstition, fearmongering. Some of those are already hardcore nazis, some of them are sympathizers in some ways.

      That’s fine, I’m not gonna disagree with this, however I don’t see these people as a large, organized group that is bigger than the anti-Israel, anti-Russia status quo.

      They usually get informations from the TV, newspapers and friends, partially online as well - mostly Facebook.

      From TV, really? Maybe if you’re talking about Fox News… That sort of TV doesn’t exist in most European countries, Thankfully.

      From the internet though yeah, i agree. But again, these aren’t apolitical people at that point, if you’re getting so involved in political discussions like that.

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      • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m from Europe. I don’t know any completely apolitical people, really. Everyone has heard of some political topic and most of the topics make people feel strong emotions, based on which they form their opinions. In my country, the people from group 2 are not organized by themselves, but they are being successfully manipulated by rich populists. They are the majority and they are the group you need to win over to win any elections.

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