Comment on Why I recommend against Brave.

• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It sounds like you need to step away from social media and touch some grass.

  But let’s say you’re right, pretty much every big company is sucking up to Trump, and you’d be hard pressed to find something in your shopping cart that doesn’t benefit someone that supports him. That’s an untenable position.

  The better approach, IMO, is to avoid products from companies that mistreat their employees. That’s why I avoid Walmart, Amazon, and a few others, because that sends a clearer message and funnels my money to a better cause.

  Avoiding Brave is just virtue signaling, it doesn’t actually accomplish anything. If Brave goes under, Eich will still be conservative and probably still donate to causes you don’t like, but we’ll have one less competitor to Google’s absolute hegemony over the web browser market.

  Use Brave if it solves your problems, don’t if it doesn’t. Don’t base that decision on the personal views of the person who happens to be in charge.

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  • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    but we’ll have one less competitor to Google’s absolute hegemony over the web browser market.

    Brave isn’t a competitor to Google, it’s an enabler. It uses the same engine, which is all Google cares about: Their engine, their internet.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It absolutely is a competitor. Yes, it uses the same engine, but it blocks their ads. And at the end of the day, serving ads is what Google wants to do.

      But again, Firefox (and forks) is my main browser, and it’s what I recommend to everyone. But Brave is on my list of acceptable Chromium browsers, assuming you need a Chromium browser (I do for web dev at my day job).

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      • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yes, it uses the same engine, but it blocks their ads.

        Which means nothing, when Google can, and is, pushing technology to freely unleash their ad network on all web pages, as a function of the engine itself.

        No, it’s not a competitor. Excepting in their ad markets, and frankly, it’s not a competitor, it’s a statistical blip.

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  • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    So brave is for people who want privacy and security and are fine when their private, secure software is designed by people who see no problems with not investigating russian cyberterrorism, russian bots and propaganda and see no issues with sharing some of the highest state secrets over some fucking messenger group with random people from outside the government. OH and not to menition think traitorous felons who failed a coup should be punished with 4 years in the highest office.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      designed by people who see no problems with…

      Do you have a source for those beliefs, or are you just assuming that someone vaguely supporting Trump has that perspective?

      I honestly don’t care what the devs believe, as long as they don’t intentionally put in vulnerabilities.

      this is not the software I want to entrust literally all data of all my finances and important personal details on.

      Same, which is why I use and recommend Firefox and derivatives.

      My point is that if your requirement is a chromium-hard based browser, you can do a lot worse than Brave.

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      • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        You cannot support current administration and at the same time be pro freedom, privacy and even pro common sense. These things are mutually exclusive, unless you’re lying or insanely stupid bot.

        Very simple.

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