Comment on Servo vs Ladybird.

• Tea@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I really can’t figure out if you are trolling or not.

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  • ernest314@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    nah. it may not be a huge deal (esp. if you’re male) and “screaming” might be exaggerating it, but “keep personal politics out of code” is classic “I consider your existence political”.

    I’m happy to see if the guy’s politics has changed in the years since this happened, and I don’t know if their involvement in the project is worthy of a boycott, but those are personal choices (and the relevant comment was even helpfully linked).

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Really?

  A better fix would be to remove the pronoun entirely.

  To prevent this, remove anon from the wheel group and the user will no longer be able to run /bin/su.

  But honestly, it doesn’t matter at all.

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  • bjorney@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, I’m sure that PR would have been accepted instead /s

    But you’re right, it doesn’t matter at all, the reasonable thing to do would have been for the guy to spend 3 seconds clicking the accept and merge button, or 6 seconds making your change. instead he wrote a comment stating that inclusive language has no place in his project

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Here are the issues I see:

      1. That’s his only PR in this repo, and it just changed one word that wasn’t incorrect for one that’s preferable to the author
      2. The documentation in question is talking about an OS user, not a user of the software, so gender doesn’t apply (“it” would be totally appropriate)
      3. If goes against established norms here, it would be like changing a pronoun for a ship from “she” to “they”

      My suggestion sidesteps the issue entirely by avoiding pronouns, which doesn’t violate norms at all here.

      He didn’t say anything about inclusive language not being welcome, he said politically motivated changes aren’t welcome. If there’s documentation referencing users of telhe software, I’m guessing a change using inclusive language would be treated very differently.

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      • bjorney@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If goes against established norms here

        What’s the established norm here. All people compiling software by source are male?

        he said politically motivated changes aren’t welcome

        What’s politically motivated about changing “he” to “they”. As you said, gender doesn’t apply here, so the neutral word is literally preferable.

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