The problem is having to get 300 millions to open another instance feddit.org/post/6795570
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RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So it’s not federated properly or something? Is the problem having to abandon ship if everything goes the Twitter route?
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What most people in this thread don’t realize is that what you’re seeing right here is the problem with federated services in this day and age.
Federation protocols and systems just are not mature enough to scale.
Yes you will essentially always have to abandon ship anytime any federated service scales up it’s user base. It will always be entirely unaffordable and unobtainable for randoms to host their own servers because the compute storage and networking requirements will far exceed what most can’t afford.
As an aggregate federated services are always more expensive to host then centralized services. And that cost scales less efficiently than centralized services. Meaning that with linear user growth you get exponential cost growth, and the barrier for entry follows.
Which means that all federated services have to have centralization in order to scale. In their current form.
This is a really tough problem to solve and is going to take a lot of time and money to build good solutions for. Time and money that… You guessed it, is largely funded by profits not donations.
And now we have looped back around.
Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I disagree, this assumes that every node (instance, server, whatever you want to call it) has to be twitter size.
I can self host my own gotosocial instance, follow people I like, and it will give me their posts, and I can interact with them.
In fact, atproto scales even worse horizontally than ActivityPub, it scales quadratically.
RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That seemed to be what I was understanding about the issue. Does that mean that the technology isn’t there yet, in terms of affordability? If that’s the case it would be longer to fully get something like this as the concept is the opposite of what people with money want