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Comment on dear republicans, what's the point of alienating every single ally of the US?

There was no way to prove to the American people that he was going to give government positions to the people behind it.

Is what you actually said, I didn’t recall it too well but I wasn’t “lying”. Knowing he was going to put them in government was easily predictable to anyone with open eyes. Buying the “Trump distanced himself from project 2025” bs is pure retardation.

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Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
These distinctions completely change the meaning. “Being able to predict” vs “being able to prove to a broad population” are completely different things. Of course it could be predicted, I certainly did, but that doesn’t resolve the question of how you get the message out on a large scale and convince people of it. Even if you and I could see through it, he still had plausible deniability, making it not necessarily the most compelling angle to hit people with.

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- zenitsu@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  but that doesn’t resolve the question of how you get the message out on a large scale and convince people of it
  
  Should be easy, given that the US has a much stronger propaganda platform than Russia no? /s It’s almost as if despite this being shown across all media, a massive amount of voters were still manipulated by foreign & right-wing propaganda into ignoring/dismissing it.
  
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  - Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Should be easy, given that the US has a much stronger propaganda platform than Russia no? /s
    
    Of course, the US government has a stronger propaganda platform in the US than Russia has in the US. Political parties are not the US government though, so it’s not really relevant to how a political party can promote a message.
    
    It’s almost as if despite this being shown across all media, a massive amount of voters were still manipulated by foreign & right-wing propaganda into ignoring/dismissing it.
    
    Or they just didn’t see it or pay attention or they didn’t believe Trump would do it based on their own reasoning. People can believe different things from you without the need to insert a malicious actor to explain the disagreement.
    
    But ok, your position is that nobody has both the willingness or capability to counter foreign/right-wing propaganda. So, as I’ve asked several times now, what is your solution to this situation? Because it seems like your solution is just to whine about the situation.
    
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    zenitsu@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Of course, the US government has a stronger propaganda platform in the US than Russia has in the US.
    
    There’s nothing “of course” about this statement. All evidence points to Russia having a better handle on the US populations opinion than the US.
    
    So, as I’ve asked several times now, what is your solution to this situation?
    
    I’m not here to generate solutions, no idea why you keep asking for one. The US has a unique issue with propaganda because of the first amendment, there’s no easy solution other than people smartening up and social media companies taking more responsibility for their content via fact checkers etc.
    
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