Comment on The Fediverse Isn’t the Future. It’s the Present We’ve Been Denied.

• sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I want to be among people who interact as equals, who share ideas, who cooperate in a genuine way.

  I think online journalism might be a good example of influencers and users interacting as equals. Users provide extra information, ask questions, reify, and help highlight where the journalist can focus. The journalist does the leg work to produce novel news.

  If we try a shortcut to more users through money, what is the point?

  To build an interesting, self sustaining network, where people can express themselves fully, and understand each other.

  The features I’m suggesting would benefit everyone: a decent view of trending topics/posts/tags; mod-controlled tags; stuff like that. Most users would find them helpful, but a few could use it to build a livelihood that others value.

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  • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If the money is freely given as a donation, then I’m with you. If lack of money is what is stopping someone from making things that others are willing to pay to see more of, then sure. But if the only way to do it is to have ads or selling our data etc, then I don’t want that.

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    • sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      But if the only way to do it is to have ads or selling our data etc, then I don’t want that.

      Nobody wants that. It’s a bunch of lil features:

      • following users in Lemmy,

      • allow mods flair users in a community (so subscribers/patrons can show off),

      • Make it easier to see popular posts on Lemmy and Mastodon,

      Stuff like that.

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  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The journalist does the leg work to produce novel news.

    Just to add that in addition to novelty, journalists provide valuable services, like

    • holding up a mirror to the present culture
    • documenting and disseminating happenings
    • packaging up events into narratives

    Not to say that you weren’t including these in “novel news,” but just to make it explicit.

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    • sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Absolutely - I wanted to list interactions between regular users and someone who makes money with a platform.

      After a bunch of Twitter users (including journalists) bounced off Mastodon when Elon bought it, the fediverse needs to understand why, and think about what it means to be a viable platform.

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• grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Agreed. The only thing I actually miss is geographically local contacts. But as far as just culture and discourse goes - I’m good.

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