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• Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So you admit he’s a warcriminal because of the crimes on humanity he’s guilty of, which Zelensky is not? You’re not taking a side.

  I don’t think you’re a state actor, you’re clearly not a professional in anything. But like… even if I did, do you think I’m actually trying to say that Russian disinfo wouldn’t be able to lie?

  Now you’re just doing the very same “oh I already admitted to that” thing, because you pretend like saying “all world leaders are bad” means the same thing as admitting to Putin’s crimes.

  You avoid being directly unpatriotic, because you think you can outsmart me. It’s like watching a toddler hide behind some curtains, not realising their feet are showing and that one can actually hear them giggling.

  Basically, you avoid anything that could actually get you thrown out of a window. You won’t actually take a stand against Putin. No, you’ll try to pretend to admit to criticising him while trying to criticise Zelensky. Zelensky hasn’t invaded a sovereign nation with his armed forces. He is defending his country though, and unlike Putin, he isn’t a low-test bald fattie hiding in a bunker.

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  • index@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I just said that putin is a warcriminal and you accuse me of not taking a stand against him because i don’t support zelensky. Do you realize how wrong and twisted this logic is?

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re not taking a stand.

      That’s like me saying “hey, that guy there, he raped a person, I saw him put his dick into another person with force, against their will” and me asking you to be a witness and affirm that thing to the cops, and then you come in and say “well yeah, everyone who has a penis is technically a rapist, so yeah, I admit that that person is a rapist because he has a penis” which would mean you’re implying that you are not a witness to that rape.

      You see how this works? Like each and every time, I have to draw it out of you, and then when I do, you just skip and run. I told you, we’ve had this chat a dozen times.

      en.wikipedia.org/…/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_inva…

      Since the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the Russian military and authorities have committed war crimes, such as deliberate attacks against civilian targets, including on hospitals, medical facilities and on the energy grid;[1][2][3] indiscriminate attacks on densely-populated areas; the abduction, torture and murder of civilians; forced deportations; sexual violence; destruction of cultural heritage; and the killing and torture of Ukrainian prisoners of war.

      If you accept these to be true, I’d shut up. But you won’t. Instead you’ll keep whatabouting about Zelensky, hoping I’ll instead try to shift the conversation onto asking “why don’t you support Zelensky”, but that’s kinda obvious, so I don’t. And you won’t accept those crimes, like all the dozens of times before, and you won’t accept that Putin should be held personally responsible for those crimes either, I’d wager.

      Please, do prove me wrong.

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      • index@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re not taking a stand.

        I’m taking the stand of justice and accusing war criminals of their wrongdoings. All of them not just one.

        You keep bitching about me but you haven’t answer the question yourself. Do you agree that trump, putin, zelenskyy, macron and most world rulers are all corrupted pigs with blood on their hands?

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