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Comment on George Orwell’s 1984 as a ’90s PC game has to be seen to be believed

weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Where does this view that we live in 1984’s world come from? Does 1984 simply mean “dystopia” now? 2025’s reality isn’t 1984, it’s Idiocracy slowly transitioning to either Cyberpunk or Fallout. And even then it’s not universal.

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wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Does 1984 simply mean “dystopia” now?

What, you expect people to read? To be familiar with a piece of media before they reference it?

At this point there’s been a meme for years about people misusing it.

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- Vikthor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  What, you expect people to read?
  
  So what you are saying is this more like Fahrenheit 451?
  
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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You’re right. People say “1984” to mean “dystopia” or “things I don’t like about modern society”.

Tangentially related, there was a survey a while back that found most people who say they have read 1984 haven’t actually read it.

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neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Except it literally is. Every dissenting view gets called fake news and ignored. Trump supports ukraine yesterday and russia today. Violence gets threatened and used on those deemed “woke” and bathrooms are being surveiled.

The US (or at least part of it) literally lives in 1984.

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- weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It absolutely is not. Ocania is a socialist state gone wrong, what 1984 fears is a fully centralized, all powerful, all seeing state controlling each and every aspect of it’s citizens’ lives and hell bent on keeping them unintellegent and subservient so it could control them forever.
  
  America doesn’t even have the spine to tell cryptobros to stop scamming people, or AI bros to cease mass copyright infringement, you cannot tell me those are the same state. America is a corporatocracy, it’s government is pitiful. Trump got where he is by telling people things they already wanted to hear. What brought America to this point is the two party system it so stubbornly refused to get rid of. If people had more of a choice other than the two of the most unpopular candidates in a long time, but one with a more firey performance, things could’ve been different.
  
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