Your registrar (the place you buy your domains) are where you update your nameservers. If Cloudflare have locked you out then you won’t be able to change them. Other standard registrars will have far less cause, legitimate or not, to lock or disable your account, since they don’t host/proxy your content.
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folekaule@lemmy.world 6 days agoI have one of my domains on Cloudflare and was thinking of moving the rest of them there. What makes it harder to move name servers away from Cloudflare than other places?
jonathan@lemmy.zip 6 days ago
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I’m not sure what the consequences are for ignoring it, but it would violate the ICANN RAA to lock a person out of being able to transfer their domain except for legal reasons like evidence of fraud or a court order. Sure, they can terminate your account on their services but they can’t prevent you from transferral without violating their agreement with ICANN.
It would be a weird scenario that you’re describing that would be unusual and exceedingly rare. You would need to be directly connected to something highly illegal for that to happen, not just a normal user.
jonathan@lemmy.zip 6 days ago
That’s why I said I don’t trust them to not fuck up, not that it’s something that should ordinarily be expected. Additionally, especially considering how the rule of law in their jurisdiction is going recently I wouldn’t assume it will always be this way.
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 6 days ago
You’ll be fine to move them to Cloudflare.
What the other user is describing would be an extremely rare scenario, and you should be able to change registrars in that case anyway.
There’s really not much of any practical benefits of that kind of excessive “risk mitigation”.
ikidd@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I don’t agree and it’s no extra work to do it the other way. And when one or the other goes fucky, you can recover immediately.
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I get that you’re likely exaggerating by saying “it’s no extra work”, but managing another account is markedly extra work. It will also cost extra because Cloudflare does not add any markup for registration.
I think the convenience and reduction of cost greatly outweighs the highly unlikely situation where “something goes fucky”. If it does, then what? You can’t make DNS updates for a little while?
The most likely reason to get locked out is billing issues, or maybe you lost your login information or something like that, which is going to be the same risk regardless of who your registrar is. Otherwise you’d have to be involved in some sort of legal issue associated with your domain and that is a much deeper issue than can be solved by simply changing nameservers.
ikidd@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Years ago I had a registrar go tits up without warning, taking about 70-80 active domains for an MSP’s customers with it. I managed their email servers and DNS, which was with the registar, of course. It was a bloody nightmare to recover that situation. Because we couldn’t supply them a DNS change to prove our control of the DNS, hence ownership of the domain, we had to individually affadavit each domain. Took weeks.
I get you don’t think it’s important, but there’s plenty of sysadmins that do, with experience backing that up.