Comment on Judges Are Fed up With Lawyers Using AI That Hallucinate Court Cases

• Bogasse@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  A bit out of context my you recall me of some thinking I heard recently about lying vs. bullshitting.

  Lying, as you said, requires quite a lot of energy : you need an idea of what the truth is and you engage yourself in a long-term struggle to maintain your lie and keep it coherent as the world goes on.

  Bullshit on the other hand is much more accessible : you just have to say things and never look back on them. It’s very easy to pile a ton of them and it’s much harder to attack you about any of them because they’re much less consequent.

  So in that view, a bullshitter doesn’t give any shit about the truth, while a liar is a bit more “noble”. 0

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  • ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I think the important point is that LLMs as we understand them do not have intent. They are fantastic at providing output that appears to meet the requirements set in the input text, and when they actually do meet those requirements instead of just seeming to they can provide genuinely helpful info and also it’s very easy to not immediately know the difference between output that looks correct and satisfies the purpose of an LLM vs actually being correct and satisfying the purpose of the user.

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• DancingBear@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  So it can not tell the truth either

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  • FiskFisk33@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    not really no. They are statistical that use heuristics to output what is most likely to follow the input you give it

    They are in essence mimicking their training data

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    • DancingBear@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      So I think this whole thing about whether it can lie or not is just semantics then no?

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      • FiskFisk33@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        everything is semantics.

        Lying is telling a falsehood intentionally

        LLM’s clearly lack the prerequisite intentionality

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• milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’m G P T and I cannot lie.
  You other brothers use ‘AI’
  But when you file a case
  To the judge’s face
  And say, “made mistakes? Not I!”
  He’ll be mad!

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    🏅

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