And now we have Trump they will be cheered on if anything
They were cheered on before Trump too
I think the recent lesson the democrats have had about “hard tone” probably would’ve come in handy on Israel negotiations too. Rather than being a fan of murdering kids, I’m guessing Biden very much took a standpoint of “not wanting to upset too many people” when asking them not to bomb hospitals.
For one cause or another, the democratic party needs to find its righteous anger. It needs to risk more possibilities of people shouting back “Hey, you can’t say that!”
No, this narrative about the Democrats being smol beans who didn’t support Israel but are just too gosh darn shy to stop sending them $10,000,000,000s in weapons, deploying Navy carrier groups off the coast, bombing Israel’s enemies, blocking every attempt by the international community to intervene, or repeating and amplifying debunked Israeli propaganda, is just white washing. The Biden administration was run by hard core Zionist true believers, including Biden himself.
I’ll remove my downvote on you if you can show me evidence of the United States (not Israel) piloting bombers against Israel’s enemies, and blocking international interventions, as you claim. Though Israel has done terrible things, the basic principle of subject-verb-predicate interpretation of those statements does not sound at all correct.
I’m assuming you’re sealioning, as this is common knowledge for anyone who has been paying attention for the last year of genocide. But in case you’re serious, here’s some examples, and I’m the future I suggest you look into subjects you don’t know about before commenting on them.
aljazeera.com/…/us-says-conducted-strikes-against…
aljazeera.com/…/us-vetoes-un-security-council-res…
OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 6 days ago
They were (lightly) publicly criticised and privately supported, but yeah, point taken
kava@lemmy.world 6 days ago
we openly sent over thousands of MK84 2,000lb bombs that have used to kill thousands of civilians. not really private to be honest
OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Yeah I know. “Privately” should probably have been “quietly.” Of course you may say it wasn’t quiet, sure, but I think the meaning is clear. Telling them off with the right hand while the left is busy dropping more weapons into their lap. Just enough deniability for anyone who insists the democrats do nothing wrong.
kava@lemmy.world 6 days ago
yeah well said. and while there isn’t much of a difference to the people getting rained on with bullets and bombs… i think there is a fundamental ideological difference between at least pretending like you care.
we’ve reached the point where the executive is so powerful he doesn’t feel the nice to put the mask on. it’s a blatant and almost ostentatious use of power. Trump says and does ridiculous things (did you see that Gaza AI video?) that have no coherence because he understands his power lies in the chaos. one day he says one thing, one day he says another. ukraine and US will make a good deal one day, zelensky’s a dictator the next day, zelensky’s a good leader one day, and then zelensky’s disrespectful the next, etc etc
it’s sort of like when Stalin would go through one of his purges. He would have a long list of names on a paper and he would look through him. Every once in a while, for no apparent reason, he would cross a name off the list. He was reminding everyone that his power was absolute and he could arbitrarily choose to end you or spare you.
Trump is toying with this same type of arbitrarily derived chaos but instead of it being occasional he seems to be embracing it as his source of power