Comment on Why can't we go back to small phones?

Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Maybe because people aren’t given a choice as everything is dictated by the manufacturers.

  Slapping 10 year old hardware into a phone with a small screen is a guaranteed way to make people not buy your phone but that doesn’t mean people don’t want small screens, headphone jacks, replaceable batteries, etc. They just don’t want the garbage manufacturers lump in with these great features so that these phones don’t cut into their high-margin device sales.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You forget that all phones used to be small.

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    • DJDarren@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I had a 13 mini until a month ago. It’s one hell of a phone, and honestly, I’d still be using it if iPhones didn’t keep their value so well and weren’t such a shit company.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Cool.

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Dud” is really strong language. These companies have distorted metrics for what is a successful product.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is it “strong language” when they made up 3% of iphone sales?

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    • ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You forget that all phones used to be small.

      I haven’t forgotten that. You may have forgotten that all phones came with swappable batteries, small screens, and headphone jacks and they sold millions of them for decades. That proves these are important features because they sold well, right?

      Also all those examples you gave apply to all phones, not just small one

      What does that even mean? All phones come with old hardware and are poorly built outside of a couple key features?

      Apple sold a 13 Mini, which was nearly identical to the 13, as much as is physically possible, and it was a dud.

      So identical that they were nearly the same price which could put a lot of buyers off if they feel like they’re getting less value for their money. Consumers also think that 1/4lb burgers are better than 1/3lb burgers because they’re bigger as A&W found out in the 1980s when trying to compete against McDonalds. “The market deciding” doesn’t mean anything rational happened or that it reflects reality. You’re simply cherrypicking the result you want and shaping it to fit your argument.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You may have forgotten that all phones came with swappable batteries, small screens, and headphone jacks and they sold millions of them for decades. That proves these are important features because they sold well, right?

        Important to consumers, yes. Important to OEMs? No, quite the opposite. I don’t think that applies to screen size.

        What does that even mean?

        What did you even mean if not to imply that people weren’t buying specifically large phones because they didn’t include these anti-features?

        So identical that they were nearly the same price which could put a lot of buyers off if they feel like they’re getting less value for their money

        Why would they feel like they were getting lass value when it was the size they wanted, and had everything else also?

        Consumers also think that 1/4lb burgers are better than 1/3lb burgers because they’re bigger

        So then you agree consumers want bigger phones?

        You’re simply cherrypicking the result you want and shaping it to fit your argument.

        Pot meet kettle.

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• Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  When was the last time a small phone that didn’t also focus on being budget friendly and feature-limited hit the market? I don’t think this argument holds water since the market hasn’t been adequately tested. There are plenty of us lurking in dark corners waiting for a small but powerful phone. We are willing to sacrifice some battery life as that is a physical barrier, but there’s really no necessity to skimp on anything else. Eventually an option will present itself, but I agree with the article, the Jetstream is not blowing that direction. I don’t anticipate such an option will present anytime soon. All pendulums swing back eventually though.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think this argument holds water since the market hasn’t been adequately tested.

    You forget that the entire market used to be comprised of exclusively “small” phones, and we moved away from that.

    When was the last time a small phone that didn’t also focus on being budget friendly and feature-limited hit the market?

    The iPhone 13 Mini and ASUS Zenfone, not so long ago.

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