It feels like a lot of sites are taking active measures to block the use is password managers, too. I hate those sites. Why I’m the hell would you do that???
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jet@hackertalks.com 1 year ago
I hope you’re using a password manager, I recommend bit warden if not.
Password requirements are all attempts at getting people to introduce entropy into their passwords. The length the characters the not allowed characters the allowed characters. All about adding entropy
Restrictions on allowed characters tend to be based on legacy systems and the input state allow. So if you have an input system that only has Latin characters, it would be foolish to allow non-Latin characters into a password, because then people could get stuck unable to login. So typically they reduce to the safest set of characters that all of their systems use. And for some of the older systems that parse passwords, some of the Medicare characters could be problematic.
MagicShel@programming.dev 1 year ago
jet@hackertalks.com 1 year ago
Example please? This is not been my experience
MagicShel@programming.dev 1 year ago
Mainly financial sites, in my experience. I also have problems logging into Mastodon, because if I manually type my user and password I get logged in but if I use Bitwarden or even copy/paste it fails.
But also every site where you type in the user name and then submit and it takes you to enter the password - I use a lot of custom emails to avoid spam so I may not remember my username for a given site, but Bitwarden won’t recognize it as a login page (much bigger problem on mobile, which is where I do most of my stuff).
jet@hackertalks.com 1 year ago
It’s your browser. You can install JavaScript or a browser extension which disallows the no paste input field. So that you can always paste in.
The financial institutions that implement that they’re trying to guard against local copy and paste password theft. Any program can have access to the clipboard. So I understand why they do it, and I understand why it’s annoying.
For financial institutions I highly recommend using something like a Fido 2 key. I’m partial to the yubikey bioseries.
jadero@programming.dev 1 year ago
Prairie Centre Credit Union.
After years of complaining, they finally did something about their hopelessly insecure authentication, only to completely bork it.
Bitwarden could open the site, but couldn’t push the login info. They prohibited pasting, so I had type everything by hand. And they couldn’t even get that prohibition right, because I discovered that I could type a character then CTRL+V to paste, then HOME, DEL.
All of that is written past tense, because it was the last straw. I took my banking elsewhere, despite the fact I now have to drive 2.5 hours if I need to talk to someone in person.
Asudox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I agree. Bitwarden is open source and also provides a pretty good user experience. Now that passkey support is also coming, I like it even more. Currently a premium member. 10€/year isn’t alot for a good service.
jet@hackertalks.com 1 year ago
Plus you can self host if you want the save the $10 a year, but its worth it to support the ecosystem
Asudox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes. Exactly. I don’t know why anyone would prefer anything else over Bitwarden.
incogtino@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Bitwarden F-Droid repo
WtfEvenIsExistence@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Speaking of Password Managers, PLEASE DO NOT FORGET THAT PASSWORD.
Because that’s gonna be a bit annoying [Very Annoying].
My story: reddthat.com/post/1115518
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