IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
I would actually want to see conservatives (who doesn’t currently support trump) come and debate stuff.
I don’t agree with them, but I want to see what their perspective is.
Having a conservative community on a non-corporate site would help prevent the most extreme opinions of the right-wing and minimize russian propaganda (because we have manual applications). Give them a space here, allows them to be exposed to opposing views, preventing far-right extremism.
(Obviously, the trumpers are too far gone and we shouldn’t platform them. Racism, sexism and stuff like that should Never be allowed)
Maybe a c/DebateConservatives type of thing?
I agree, but most Lemmings seem to be completely intolerant of right of center views. I’ve never seen any content in that community that’s right of center without being downvoted into oblivion.
If Lemmings just don’t want other views here, that’s fine, it just kind of sucks when all I get is an echo chamber.
This cimes from the assumption that right wing views have equal validity and exist on am equal footing, but they just don’t.
Right wing autoritarian attitudes are just whatever is propped up by the propaganda of the prevailing hierarchy. They’re blasted out of mainstream news outlets everyday. They don’t survive on merit, but on funding.
Like honestly, if you want to hear what conservatives have to say, go watch their news, listen to their pundits, join their social media apps, but if you’ve got half a brain then you shouldn’t be surprised that it’s just a pile of callow, self-serving bullshit. You will be disappointed.
Like this is an open system. Anyone can make an instance. You know why right wing instances just… aren’t? Because they can’t stop themselves from being bigots, which most people hate, actually, and gets them yeeted, so they don’t thrive here. It’s ot some conspiracy or bias, it’s just what happens when assholes aren’t shielded by some big daddy corporation. They can’t hack it.
“Right of center views” currently means lies, propaganda, and reality denial. I do not consider myself a leftist (though I do agree with leftists on a lot of things) nor a communist, but there is absolutely nothing of value the current right offers.
I do agree Lemmy (and Reddit) are echo chambers. The real solution? Go outside. However, you’ll likely find most people are very apathetic (and easily fooled) but not necessarily right leaning.
It’s not our fault that the actually reasonable conservative views were already drowned out by the raving lunatic fascist mobs. gestures broadly at US federal government
By how much the overton window shifted in the US, those (non-trumper) conservatives should really be called “centrists”
Fascists feeling unwelcome is exactly how things should be.
Communists feeling unwelcome is exactly how things should be too.
Depends on the communist.
Tankie? No thanks. Anarcho-communist? Please, come on in.
Communists aren’t destroying the US government as of now. Unless you consider the Russian assets on the right as communists?
Maybe you should consider why that is. After several decades of "right center" politics being like "we promise we're not crypto fascists" ultimately enabling Trump, you are still confused about why people are so hostile to those exact same narratives?"
We have an echo for the chamber, that is true, but the antidote is not right wing views, the right wing has lost any credibility after Trump.
I’m probably center left for lemmy, and that is what we need more of. Lemmy is heavily moded by very VERY left people that like to ban anyone that dares disagree
“Right of center” means the insufferable liberal types on LW.
Go on X and hang with your fucking treasonous fash friends then.
Show me a right of center viewpoint that isn’t hateful or in bad faith and I won’t downvote it.
Yes, I too want to give them a save space, so I can study the mental illness, and see if there’s a cure for it.
metaldream@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
After the last couple days, I want nothing to do with these fucking backstabbing traitors.