Comment on Framework’s first desktop is a strange—but unique—mini ITX gaming PC

• commander@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Lol. Are you nuts? Am I really supposed to sit here and list off what makes a great product for a great price?

  Let’s be real. You don’t like how I criticized how people like you are getting taken for a ride so you’re desperate to make it seem like it’s not true.

  The sooner you realize how you’re being taken advantage of, the sooner you can start to do something about it.

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Am I really supposed to sit here and list off what makes a great product for a great price?

    No, I don’t understand what you are asking for.

    You don’t have to be extensive, but… what would you want instead? A more traditional Mini PC? A dGPU instead? A different size laptop? Like, if you could actually tell Framework what you want, in brief, what would you say?

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    • commander@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Fair enough.

      I skimmed it for a few seconds, got a little bit ill at the $1100 starting price, and then it occurred to me: what is this for?

      Wasn’t frameworks whole thing about making modular laptops? What value are they bringing to the mini-ITX market? They’re already modular. In fact, it looks like they’re taking away customizability with soldered RAM.

      You asked me what I want, and this is definitely what I don’t want. If they wanted to make this product appealing to me, they’d have to lower the price and live more modest lifestyles with the more modest profit margins.

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      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This is ostensibly more of a workstation/dev thing. The integrated GPU is more or less like a very power efficient laptop 4070/4080 with unlimited VRAM, depending on which APU you pick, and the CPU is very fast, with desktop Ryzen CCDs but double the memory bandwidth of what even an 9800 X3D has. In that sense, it’s a steal compared to Nvidia DIGITs or an Apple M4 Max, and Mini PC makers alternatives haven’t really solidified yet.

        I think Framework knows they can’t compete with a $900 Walmart laptop and the crazy bulk pricing/corner cutting they do, nor can they price/engineer things (with the same bulk discounts) at the higher end like a ROG Z13/G14.

        So… this kinda makes sense to me.

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