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cm0002@lemmy.world 4 days agoThat Democrats still haven’t fixed, despite all their years in power. And if Trump is doing such terrible thigns, then in 4 years, you all can change everything back the way you want it.
Classic bad faith argument. You’re ignoring the structural hurdles I just explained about Manchin, Sinema, and GOP obstruction. As for “just wait 4 years” – that’s exactly the problem. The damage Trump did in 4 years will take decades to fix. You can’t just “change everything back” when you’ve gutted regulatory agencies, stacked courts with ideologues, and sold off public resources to private interests.
Great! Then again, in 4 years, you guys can get voted back in and fix all that. So there ya go!
Notice how you’ve completely abandoned defending Trump’s policies on their merits? You’re basically admitting they’re harmful but saying “who cares, we won.” This is exactly what I meant by “fuck you, I got mine” politics. You don’t care about making things better for everyone, just “winning.”
But if that was such a great idea, they they should have won the election. So maybe that’s now what people were wanting.
Again with this circular logic. Winning elections doesn’t prove your policies are better for people – it proves your messaging resonated emotionally. Most Trump voters can’t even name his specific policy positions beyond vague “make America great” rhetoric.
You’ve consistently dodged every substantive point about actual policy impacts. Instead, you fall back on “we won, so we must be right” – which is exactly the kind of shallow, tribal thinking that’s destroying any hope of productive political discourse in this country.
DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today 4 days ago
So how come the Democrats don’t create that sort of “obstruction” for the GOP?
Seems like a better Dem presidential campaign should have fixed that. Seems like they may have failed you a bit in that respect.
I’m not a fucking political strategist with a degree in political science. I don’t give a fuck. I like him. I like what he’s doing. And enough other people do, that they voted for him. Maybe take that into consideration
Says the guy who wants to turn a conservative community into a meme community and make fun of Republicans. So why would I take anything you are saying seriously? I mean, did making fun of republicans work for you all in the election?
All I see is you mocking people who don’t agree with you or who you deem to be too stupid to make the right choices.
I’ve seen some democrat strategists stay that the Dem downfall started by not taking republican voters seriously, and indeed mocking them, as a strong root cause of why you lost.
So do you think advocating making fun of Republicans rather than strengthing democratic community building is the best way to go?
Get the fuck outta here with you “Oh you’re not having serious political discourse” bs, when you have made it your mission to make fun of republicans in a conservative community.
Now just becaue I point that out, don’t that you have really had a “gotcha” moment with me. Because I don’t really care THAT much.
IN fact, I am exactly one of those who went by their gut, voted for Trump with glee just got get back and you all for mocking republicans.
Lemmy jerks making fun of every conservative was the in the forefront of my brain when I voted.
And no regrets at all. I’m happy to see it all burn down and start from scratch.
I’m not even a fucking republican. I’m an anarchist.
You all deserve Trump.
cm0002@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Democrats aren’t saints, theyre imperfect allies at best But there’s a fundamental difference in approach. ds generally try to govern and pass legislation, while McConnell openly declared his primary goal was blocking Obama’s agenda. When Ds obstruct, it’s usually on specific harmful policies, not a total blanket refusal to let the other side accomplish anything. There’s a difference between principled opposition and sabotaging government function.
Oh look, now you’re blaming Democrats for Republican destruction. Classic abuser logic: “Why did you make me hurt you?”
Finally some honesty! “I don’t give a fuck about policy” - we’ve reached the core of MAGA politics. You “like what he’s doing” but can’t defend any of it on substance. Pure emotion and tribalism.
Everyone needs spaces to vent and joke. Conservatives have entire media empires dedicated to spreading their misinformation and conspiracy theories. Fox News, OAN, countless Facebook groups and Telegram channels, even Lemmy instances, yet you’re mad about some memes on Lemmy who hasn’t even broken 50k MAUs?
The idea that Democrats lost because we weren’t nice enough to people actively supporting policies that harm vulnerable communities is laughable. “I voted to take away healthcare from millions because someone was mean to me online” isn’t the flex you think it is.
So you’re admitting you voted to hurt people out of spite? And somehow we’re the bad guys for making memes?
No actual anarchist would support the most authoritarian presidential candidate in modern history. You’re not an anarchist; you’re just angry and nihilistic.
And there it is. The mask comes off. This was never about policy or principles. It’s about hurting people you don’t like. Thanks for finally being honest about it.
DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today 4 days ago
so you think every fucking democrat on Lemmy is some political Philosophy input and is as fucking nerdy about politics as you are? Get the fuck outta here with that.
Again, a perfect example of why you all lost. You insist that everyone has to be at your level of intelligence or they are not worth anything.
Keep it up. You’ll lose the next election too. And I’ll laugh again.
I’m not angry at all. I’m having a fucking great time. You are angry. I’m not. At all.
Guess Lemmy shouldn’t be so quick to do jerky things like turn conservative communities into meme communites that make fun of conservatives.
How that work out in the last election?
I never wore a mask. I have no desire to hurt people. But I do love how shocked you all were that your holier-than-thou attitude didn’t win any elections.
And here’s the thing. I think you actually know a lot of it was how democrat attitudes are percieved. Like you said, elections are won just by policy. It’s people skills.
Maybe all the fed people laid off can “learn to code.” You all will totally help them out! No worries.
You fucking laugh and mock people who aren’t in your little bubble. Now you can handle what the results of that is.
Rather than just wait/ask that a good conservative mod comes, you decide to mock conservatives. Just like what you are doing with this community.
I promise you this: Whether I am on Lemmy or not, banned or not, I will never ever ever EVER vote for a Democrat. Because of what I have seen on here. I would rather watch the world burn down and start from sticks and stones.
You specifically mock and make fun of people who aren’t in your little circle. And take glee in the mocking.
YOU, yes, YOU deserve Trump. And I will fucking laugh about it every single day until Trump leaves office.
Nah, I’m not mad. I’m laughing and I feel like it’s totally just that you all got your asses handed to you.
cm0002@lemmy.world 4 days ago
No, but most people who vote care about at least some policies that affect their lives. You’ve spent this entire conversation dodging every policy point while openly declaring vote purely based on spite. Huge difference.
Never said that. I said policy matters more than tribal politics. You’re the one who keeps bringing up intelligence, which is telling. Nobody said you need a PHD level understanding of politics, just reading up on the policies themselves should not be that huge of an ask.
Your all-caps rants, excessive swearing, and “I will never ever ever EVER vote for a Democrat” suggest otherwise. People having a great time don’t usually type like they’re screaming or have to constantly say “I’m not mad” who are you trying to convince?
You’re still hung up on a meme community while openly supporting politicians who are actively stripping rights from marginalized people. One of these things is not like the other.
There’s a difference between mocking harmful ideas and mocking people. Conservative policies have real, harmful impacts on vulnerable communities. That deserves criticism, and memes are a form of criticism.
And there it is again. You claim you “have no desire to hurt people” then immediately say you’d rather see the world burn than vote for someone who might help others. The contradiction is stunning.