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SMS is default texting for all phones of all types all providers in the US. Its main advantage is ubiquity and it is the only ubiquitous text protocol. SMS was always owned by cell providers.

While I also am disappointed that ubiquitous text protocol owned by cell providers never progressed, can’t blame Apple for that. They could have used their influence to push harder but bottom line is the change needed to be at cell providers. They may also have seen that even Google with all its influence wasn’t able to make it happen (without taking it proprietary, owning it, centralizing it).

But let me ask this: what other texting provider includes a fallback to incorporate texters outside their network? At all? Does WhatsApp include users of iMessage? SMS? RCS?

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artificialfish@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
You can literally blame Apple for that, because that standard did progress, and they did not incorporate it into their default messaging app for years due to anticompetitive marketing practices. To compare the responsibilities of a default and only (since you can’t sidecar on iPhone) text messaging app on a phone with 50% market share with a third party app is bad faith.

Did you just reverse your position? I’m confused.

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- AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Different bubbles are a visual indicator whether the messages are encrypted.
  
  Apple is a good faith participant in that they support a fallback to the texting standard supported by every mobile vendor.
  
  It’s not bad faith on my part when you brought up WhatsApp. Sure they don’t have blue but bubbles, but that’s because they don’t support an open standard at all, they don’t have an inclusive mode at all, they only support their own users on their own proprietary protocol.
  
  Most importantly I don’t see how it’s Apple’s responsibility to push mobile vendors to modernize. Blame them if vendors were modernizing and they pushed back
  
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  - artificialfish@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    The vendors were modernizing and they pushed back.
    
    I’m glad you could set up a way to falsify your beliefs so that they could, indeed, be proven false
    
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