Comment on Obsidian is now free for work - Obsidian

• fluxion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “…until we have a large enough userbase to start monetizing and enshittifying…”

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  • Toribor@corndog.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    At least if/when that happens all your files are in markdown, owned and controlled by you so migrating to another tool is pretty easy.

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  • ArchRecord@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    While that’s technically possible, it’s very difficult, and in my opinion, highly unlikely.

    • All notes are stored in markdown, which is compatible with any other markdown-compatible app. It’s not just a note format, it’s a fire exit.
    • Even the canvas files are now having an interoperable format created, with other industry-leading canvas style software, and that whole process was started by the Obsidian team voluntarily
    • All plugins must be open-source unless explicitly and clearly stated, and such plugins are only listed on a case-by-case basis, which makes even additional plugin-specific functionality added to Obsidian easier to port over to other software if Obsidian ever does lock things down
    • They don’t have VC investors, and have mentioned a few times that they won’t be accepting investment in the future, since they don’t exactly have very high costs. They’re explicitly anti “VCware.” Features like Sync that depend on their server hosting bill being paid are only used by paying users, and most users will never have to use Obsidian servers past downloading and updating the app, and installing a few plugins of a few megabytes in size. Costs aren’t likely to rise in any substantial way, and their team is small enough to make it profitable to operate at their existing scale.
    • Actions like this are literally proactively recognizing that something wasn’t in line with their manifesto, and wasn’t beneficial for users, so they’re removing it. Companies planning to enshittify don’t usually remove enshittified/negative features they already have before re-enshittifying. They want you used to the enshittification from the start.

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  • priapus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They have a plenty large enough user base and have not done so. You’re literally commenting this on a post of them doing the exact opposite. The fear mongering is insane.

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    • fluxion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It was nothing personal, more of an off-handed commentary on how things usually end up going after 20 years of seeing literally every site/service I’ve used and most of the companies I once considered “the good ones” eventually get shittier in some way when the business side puts on the squeeze.

      The one exception I can think of is Wikipedia.

      But I don’t have any reason to think badly of these folks, their current owners seem to have their hearts in the right place and indeed have made decisions that avoid lockin and assure users, and I hope they are another Wikipedia that will endure the tides of enshittification.

      But I will never again assume that such hopes will remain the reality, even in this case. This is a snapshot in time. Owners change, priorities change, pricing models change, file formats change, common sense statements of basic decency like “don’t be evil” get rescinded, scrappy fun websites created by free-thinkers become tools of fascist oppression.

      That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve your business and support currently. Just make sure your off-ramp options remain acceptable if things begin to change.

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• RiQuY@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Still closed source.

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• Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What’s the catch?

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  • rbits@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you want to sync your notes between devices, Obsidian Sync is $48 a year. But since it’s all just markdown files anyway, you could just use dropbox to sync them anyway.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      dam thats a lot for a sync. I guess its supporting the project.

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      • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s $4 a month for 1GB of storage, not insane

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