Comment on Email provider for home server alerts
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 days agoWhat other than email provides that?
Matrix? For one?
Browser notifications generally don’t work on mobile.
…of course they do?
if you’re not suggesting sending messages via IRC or XMPP (or matrix or…) which have their own problems.
Among others. Email has much bigger problems.
App notifications require that you have the thing which app is running to be available and online and they more often that not require some spesific device
I have no idea what any of that means…
Also I have not met an ISP which would block sending email via gmail/amazon/protonmail/whoever.
Which makes no difference when self-hosting…
Which other protocol
See above.
you can read email even with Commodore 64
I…don’t know what that’s supposed to mean. You want to argue that email is superior because it’s old? You can run a Mastodon server on a Commodore as well.
There’s just no way for any other modern service to even try to compete with versatility with email.
Yes? There are a hundred ways.
Set up a old fire alarm bell, hook it up to your home automation, process incoming emails and if it’s severe enough turn the bell on.
…why wouldn’t you just send the signal directly to the server?
IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
That checks out. You conveniently skipped the part where I requested a single messaging solution which works with either modern android/ios devices or with anything you’ll find in your dad’s(or grandads I guess) drawer, can manage multiple recipients, escalations to sms/home automation bells, works reliably even if the uplink goes down for few hours and so on.
And no, you very much can not run mastodon server on a Commodore 64.
But you seem like a young and enthustiatic individual. I was one “a few” years ago. Keep it going, but that arrogant attitude won’t get you anywhere. Email has been a thing since the 1970s and there’s a reason why it’s still going strong. Things like XMPP has been around for a good while and there’s a reason why they’re not even close of overtaking email as a primary communication technology around.
You’ll live and learn. My guess is that when you reach my age, email is still working just fine and majority of the hot stuff which is around right now has faded to the history.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 days ago
I didn’t skip anything. The solutions I listed support all of that, with the possible exception of running on old shit which…why is that even remotely relevant?
You absolutely can. There’s an entire community dedicated to running Mastodon servers on old hardware.
Is it ignorant old farts refusing to embrace new technology?
Because it came around after email and all the old farts were too committed to it to learn something new? Is it because tech oligarchs learned from their lessons and embraced, extended, exploited, and abandoned open standards? What is the reason? You tell me.
It doesn’t work “just fine”, it’s fucking awful.
IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Ok. Send me the link of disk image of that. I have C64 laying around with 1541 disk drive. I’ll set up a public mastodon instance running on a C64 with a webcam stream of the setup.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 days ago
I don’t know where to find that information. I’ve just seen it running.