Comment on X is working on ID verification, what’s next?

• joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yet you show them to the minimum wage earner before buying alcohol, or let a bouncer scan it before getting into a club? That doesn’t seem like something you’d need to do with private information.

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  • d3Xt3r@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In both cases though, there is a legal requirement for an ID to prove that you’re above legal age to buy/consume alcohol. There is no legal requirement to provide such information to a social media platform.

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    • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sure, but if they’re not really private information, then what is the concern? It seems to function similarly to an email address, kinda? Something I’d really rather not be shown to the public but also something I’m giving out to the public all the time.

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      • youthinkyouknowme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Although it’s relatively not so private, I’d still rather not be giving it away to social media. Unlike an email, your ID, full name and DOB is enough for scammers to use your name for shady stuff, at least in my country.

        It got to the point here that scammers get older/retired people IDs to open bank account and get loans, leaving these people with debt + the whole legal process.

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    • HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Yet”

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  • SoggyBread@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But at the same time, all they care about is date of birth. Theyre not looking for name, hair color, eye color, address, weight, organ donor status, etc.

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    • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well, DoB and the picture. Are those other data fields considered private?

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      • elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Can you refuse to produce ID to law enforcement in the U.S. without probable cause? Yes? Then it’s private.

        You give your ID info to whomever you want, including the minimum wage worker. But you don’t have to if you don’t want to.

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      • SoggyBread@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You may be right, in person, you could probably figure most of that stuff out at a glance, but at the same time they dont also have access t one of my internet handles and access to my likes and dislikes. Well i defintely wouldnt want any of them to be associated with my twitter account

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      • Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Many of the scanning apps allow for customer and patron lists be built off the scans, even without that feature they usually store everything contained in a scan. That barcode on the back of American Licenses will often have more information than even the front. I don’t know about current standards, but at least one American state had your ssn as your id# and a few others would include it in the barcode scan. It really depends state by state how much info is in a code but it almost always more than whats on the front.

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  • sab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Show, yes. Take a picture of, no.

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    • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You don’t think there is a camera aimed at the register?

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  • MasterBlaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Over the years this has become more invasive. We didn’t have to hand over our I’d for scanning potentially into a permanent record to do things. A quick proof of age was all people cared about for those things inappropriate for minors.

    It’s illegal to ask for your SSN, yet it happens all the time and we have no recourse if we refuse.

    We’re being desensitized to the invasion of privacy to the point we don’t care any more. I think that is the goal. Death by 1000 pricks.

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    • joe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But your SSN is private and you shouldn’t give it out or show it except in very rare instances.

      What information on a driver’s license is private? Your address? Your eye color? Your birthday?

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      • MasterBlaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        All those bits of information are caller personally identifiable information (PII) and are protected by law forvqnything involving health and financial data.

        In it’s old form, the license isn’t a huge problem because people can’t use it to clear your accounts, fraudulently open credit cards, take out loans.

        All of those are trivial with the SSN, combined with a few of the above data points.

        Now, however, in America the drivers license is becoming required to be a full homeland security certified ID equal to or more important than the passport.

        It is encoded with all your vitals and readable by a quick scan. With your full name, age, birthdate, address, height, weight, and eye color combined with the SSN, you are screwed if shady players have that.

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      • Gutless2615@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Drivers license number is very frequently used for identity verification purposes or gates away access to essential government benefits. It’s personal information; as evidenced by the fact that it’s definitionally covered by literally every states data breach notification laws and the handful of state consumer privacy laws that exist.

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