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• VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  China is building military infrastructure on contested islands in the south china sea with the goal of controlling the whole area firmly including the first island chain and Taiwan.

  Countries go with China’s because it is a better deal with fewer strings attached.

  There’s also no historical baggage with Chinese colonialism in Africa. Fewer strings also means China doesn’t care about democracy, human rights, and such.

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  • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fewer strings also means China doesn’t care about democracy, human rights, and such.

    Looooool. As if the west does.

    American’s continue to be the most propagandized people on Earth.

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  • PanArab@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fewer strings also means China doesn’t care about democracy, human rights, and such.

    Neither does Western powers. Their support for the genocide in Gaza proves as much.

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    • VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      who cares?

      Literally all other countries in the region.

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      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It really is illustrative of the absolute depths of westerners complete thoughtless hypocrisy that they think building a few shacks on uninhabited islands is remotely comparable to what the USA does.

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• Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nothing’s wrong with building infrastructure. Why would it be?

  What’s wrong is the financing scheme that makes the infrastructure effectively Chinese national property. And when China can decide how and when a country’s infrastructure can be used, China gets a lot of influence in that country’s domestic politics. And it does use that influence.

  USA destroying Iraq doesn’t make China any less colonial. China helping rebuild Iraq in a way that will make Iraq a vassal of China… That does make China more colonial.

  USA should absolutely focus on itself. And it will do it much more than before, because now that it has decided to cut its international soft power, it does not really have other options, does it? :)

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  • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What’s wrong is the financing scheme that makes the infrastructure effectively Chinese national property. And when China can decide how and when a country’s infrastructure can be used, China gets a lot of influence in that country’s domestic politics. And it does use that influence.

    Source: The American Burger-freedom foundation for advanced jingoism research. That $1,600,000,000 the US government earmarked for anti-China propaganda definition getting returns.

    USA destroying Iraq doesn’t make China any less colonial.

    No, but it demonstrates there’s a vast, vast difference between actual colonial violence, and the bullshit that American chauvinists try to describe as colonialism.

    China helping rebuild Iraq in a way that will make Iraq a vassal of China… That does make China more colonial.

    “Yes, America destroying an entire country and killing hundreds of thousands of people is bad, but have you considered that China helping to rebuild that country is actually just as bad?”

    Ghoul. You are a ghoul.

    And it will do it much more than before

    And thank God for that: the world doesn’t need amoral monsters who think that building infrastructure is the same thing as mass bombing and murder fucking with the rest of the world.

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    • Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m sorry but you sound pike the people who call DOGE “auditors” who “look for corruption and end it”.

      China has been trying to get into big infrastructure projects in Finland as well, with the precisely same kind of loan arrangements. And it’s very good that we declined the offer. We were a colony of Sweden for 600 years. We don’t need to become one of China’s now.

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      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m sorry but you sound pike the people who call DOGE “auditors” who “look for corruption and end it”

        What the fuck kind of argument is that? “Oh you sound like the people who say [completely unrelated thing with no resemblence].” OK then, well you sound like the people who say that black people should be sterilized.

        China has been trying to get into big infrastructure projects in Finland as wel

        Infrastructure projects? Oh GOD NO! THE HUMANITY! THEY MIGHT AS WELL BE CARPET BOMBING HELSINKI!

        And it’s very good that we declined the offer. We were a colony of Sweden for 600 years. We don’t need to become one of China’s now.

        Yeah, building infrastructure is exactly like invading a country, massacring the natives, and forcibly taking control, definitely.

        You’re fucking disgusting, colonialism apologist.

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