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• Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  With Belt and Road, and all the colonialist projects China is doing in Africa, I would absolutely not say that “China is focusing on itself”. Or, at least: Even if it’s mainly focusing on itself, there is a very noteworthy imperial and colonial project going on.

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  • PanArab@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What’s wrong with building infrastructure? Nothing stopping the West from offering an alternative development plan.

    Instead when the US invaded Iraq it destroyed its infrastructure and opposed any plan to rebuild Iraq. China now is helping rebuild Iraq. Just one example of plenty.

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    • Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Nothing’s wrong with building infrastructure. Why would it be?

      What’s wrong is the financing scheme that makes the infrastructure effectively Chinese national property. And when China can decide how and when a country’s infrastructure can be used, China gets a lot of influence in that country’s domestic politics. And it does use that influence.

      USA destroying Iraq doesn’t make China any less colonial. China helping rebuild Iraq in a way that will make Iraq a vassal of China… That does make China more colonial.

      USA should absolutely focus on itself. And it will do it much more than before, because now that it has decided to cut its international soft power, it does not really have other options, does it? :)

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      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What’s wrong is the financing scheme that makes the infrastructure effectively Chinese national property. And when China can decide how and when a country’s infrastructure can be used, China gets a lot of influence in that country’s domestic politics. And it does use that influence.

        Source: The American Burger-freedom foundation for advanced jingoism research. That $1,600,000,000 the US government earmarked for anti-China propaganda definition getting returns.

        USA destroying Iraq doesn’t make China any less colonial.

        No, but it demonstrates there’s a vast, vast difference between actual colonial violence, and the bullshit that American chauvinists try to describe as colonialism.

        China helping rebuild Iraq in a way that will make Iraq a vassal of China… That does make China more colonial.

        “Yes, America destroying an entire country and killing hundreds of thousands of people is bad, but have you considered that China helping to rebuild that country is actually just as bad?”

        Ghoul. You are a ghoul.

        And it will do it much more than before

        And thank God for that: the world doesn’t need amoral monsters who think that building infrastructure is the same thing as mass bombing and murder fucking with the rest of the world.

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    • VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      China is building military infrastructure on contested islands in the south china sea with the goal of controlling the whole area firmly including the first island chain and Taiwan.

      Countries go with China’s because it is a better deal with fewer strings attached.

      There’s also no historical baggage with Chinese colonialism in Africa. Fewer strings also means China doesn’t care about democracy, human rights, and such.

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      • PanArab@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Fewer strings also means China doesn’t care about democracy, human rights, and such.

        Neither does Western powers. Their support for the genocide in Gaza proves as much.

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      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Fewer strings also means China doesn’t care about democracy, human rights, and such.

        Looooool. As if the west does.

        American’s continue to be the most propagandized people on Earth.

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  • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    all the colonialist projects China is doing in Africa

    Westerners love changing the meaning of words like “colonialism” so that they can use it to attack their enemies, as if their new definition still holds all the moral wait that it did when it was properly applied. Honestly, calling China’s relationship with Africa a “colonialist project” is a fucking disgusting insult to all the people who suffered under actual, real colonialism perpetrated by Western nations.

    I would absolutely not say that “China is focusing on itself”

    No, there isn’t, you absolute ghoul.

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    • Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What you’re saying suggests that France’s current behaviour is not colonialist. What are your thoughts on that?

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      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        France still has literal, actual colonies, you dumb fascist.

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