Europe and US CO2 emissions are dropping. The charts are in the comments here. China’s are skyrocketing, as are India’s.
Comment on China renewables capacity additions soared in 2023, growing more than four times faster than the G7
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 days agoSo China should just eat the sacrifice entirely, or is the rest of the world going to join in? Because looking at this chart, it seems China is the only country actually attempting to address it.
wewbull@feddit.uk 3 days ago
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Only because the US & Europe consider their militaries to be exempt. The US military is one of the worst mass polluters in the planet.
wewbull@feddit.uk 3 days ago
You’re saying china woul also be going down if you also exempted their military?
Errrr, no!
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I wasn’t implying the inverse. But no, China does not have the same massive military as the US, nor is it as spread across the globe.
MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
In 2023 global emissions only grew due to China. They would have fallen by 54million tonnes of CO2, if you exclude China.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yes, because global manufacturing increased, and many countries outsource their manufacturing to China. That doesn’t mean they get to outsource their part in the blame.
Would you like China to shut down outsourced manufacturing facilities? Is that the expectation?
MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
The EU actually has a pretty good plan to deal with that. It is called CBAM, a carbon tariff for high energy goods imported by the EU. The tariff is as high as the carbon price, which would be paid in the EU minus the carbon price in the country exporting. So smart policy as it insentivises other countries to create their own carbon price.
Last COP China made it their prime objective to destroy the idea of such systems.
Also in general it is best to blaim the entity, which has the easiest time to fix it. Countries pass their own laws and then enforce them. That is why we mainly look at production based emissions. In other words, if China can not produce its exports cleanly, then I expect them to shut down those factories.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Carbon credits are a hoax created by the oil lobby. If markets could solve climate change, they would’ve already done so.