Comment on Ukraine isn’t invited to its own peace talks. History is full of such examples – and the results are devastating

• fallowseed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  okay now that i’ve given you my source and its been subsequently downvoted, maybe you’d like to share some of your wonderful and trustworthy sources?

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  • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Uh, no. I literally just read your reply right now. But you can be confidently wrong about all that.

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    • fallowseed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      i said ‘some weirdo’ sorry if you feel that i’m implicating you. still waiting on your sources though.

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      • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That can absolutely be me, but you were wrong, so by circumstance doesn’t apply this time. The intent was there nonetheless.

        And I’m still waiting on yours.

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  • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Considering the type of shit you say? Well deserved.

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    • fallowseed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      i may disagree with you but i don’t think you deserve malicious bad faith actors attempting to smear and undermine you for your beliefs… i offer dialogue, i answer questions i’m asked, i try to maintain a semblance of approachability-- i am met with insults and brigading. the type of shit i say is not in a vacuum, i don’t suppose you read any of the vitriol i am responding to when i lose my better self to slap back here and there.

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  • WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Well your account is only 3 weeks old, so surely can’t have too many posts

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    • fallowseed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      306comments / 21days… about 14.5 comments per day- the bulk of them come from entrenched arguments and my addiction to receiving even more downvotes and baseless insults.

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• fallowseed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  i consider chas freeman to be my most reliable western source, but i’m sure there are others.

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  • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I meant something more substantial like a link that expands on this instead of some name drop.

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    • fallowseed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      chasfreeman.net/category/ukraine/ here are 5 speeches on ukraine.

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      • ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        “NATO expansion was legal but predictably provocative. Russia’s response was entirely predictable, if illegal, and has proven very costly to it. Ukraine’s de facto military integration into NATO has resulted in its devastation.”

        From your suggested reading, this stood out to me. The crux of any argument in Russia’s favour seems to be that they were unhappy at the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO, and thus felt justified acting preemptively. But ultimately, that was never a demand Russia was in a position to make, so any aggression on their part is not defensible on those grounds, in my opinion.

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      • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        And which one would you say touches the heart of the matter of what you say? My time is limited.

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