Comment on The one change that worked: I set my phone to ‘do not disturb’ three years ago – and have never looked back

notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No you do not.

  You don’t want an incredibly tired person prescribing treatment for you or, worse, operating on you, unless you have some kind of death wish.

  You want a proper call rota and the doctor “on call” to have their phone on and be available during their on-call hours.

  That idea of yours would be perfectly fine if it was just you, but it isn’t: it’s you and all other people who think like you (or if they start by not thinking like you, they’ll change their minds when they see others who do think like that get prompt service whilst they themselves do they not).

  That logic just leads to people who if they make a mistake can kill you or give you a problem for life (by prescribing your the wrong medicine or, worse, cutting the wrong thing whilst operating) being very tired and hence way more likely to make mistakes.

  Having a single professional having to be on call 24/7 is very much a Tragedy Of The Commons situation - fine if only one or two people used that availability only for very urgent problems, a disgrace for everybody when lots of people innevitably use that availability for any shitty shit little thing.

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  • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That idea of yours would be perfectly fine if it was just you, but it isn’t: it’s you and all other people who think like you

    Definitely not an “idea of mine”. That’s the US experience (I’m a doctor here). The US’s most common electronic medical record system developed a secure messenger app that replaced pagers so yeah for outpatient work most of the time-critical messaging goes through your cell. So no, I can’t be on DND 24/7. (I do have very aggressively tweaked work/personal/etc notification settings, but sometimes the urgent messages do need to come through after hours)

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well, I’m sorry for you guys to have to work under the worst of American management culture (the baseline of which, compared to Northern Europe and Scandinavia, is pretty).

      Coming from a Southern Europe country and having worked in a couple of countries including Northern European ones, it’s my experience that a lot of those abusive work practices you see in Anglo-Saxon and Southern European management cultures are neither needed nor efficient, and instead are just the product of bad organisation (read: incompetent management) and employees enduring it under the mistaken assumption that “that’s just the way things are”/“there is no other option”.

      If there is one thing that going to Northern Europe and working there taught me is that those things are almost never needed and most definitelly are not universally the way things are.

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      • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        the more specialized the workforce, the harder it is to overcome staffing limitations. for example, in Italy, there’s a huge physician shortage (at least when I lived in Europe there was). You won’t fix that with simply changing the management culture.

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    • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How’s the most expensive healthcare in the world supposed to be a convincing example?

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      • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        it’s neither a US- nor a profession-specific issue. it’s an issue of any high-stakes, relatively niche occupation.

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• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Your doctor has a work phone that is available only during hours.

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  • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    if they are doing outpatient work, they don’t. even worse, the paging systems migrated to cell phones.

    sauce: am doctor

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You really should use a separate phone though. Even if it’s just a virtual phone. Everyone deserves to have free time.

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      • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I use an IP phone for calls that you can switch off. The paging system is a whole 'nother story.

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