Comment on Far to many people think that Jesus from the Bible was light skinned, even though he grew up in what we call the Middle East.

• DadVolante@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Like I said, more Olive toned. Sorry it offends you but ancient Europeans, especially people in the Italian peninsula and Greece didn’t exactly look like the Europeans of today, being as most of them came from a different part of the world

  They were white people who left the middle east, they were middle eastern people who eventually turned white due to the different climate conditions of the area.

  Not dumb as fuck, nuanced. History is neat like that

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  • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The Ashkenazi Jews seem to have bred with people in the area of Russia/Ukraine millennia ago and that’s why you have more Eastern European looking Jewish people. It isn’t because of climate per se.

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  • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Looks like I’m the one here who is dumb as fuck.

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    • TechLich@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Even relatively recently, Italians weren’t really considered “white”, especially by Americans. The KKK considered them “coloured” people with their olive skin and dangerous Catholicism. There was a big wave of “italiapobia” in the late 19th/early 20th century.

      The governer of Louisiana in 1911 described Italians as “just a little worse than the Negro, being if anything filthier in their habits, lawless, and treacherous”.

      People can be pretty terrible when it comes to race and ethnicity.

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      • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Sicilians weren’t seen as Italians by other Italians because Arabs had held Sicily for centuries. This is also why some did not see the Spanish as white.

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      • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Got any further readings for this? Thank you for sharing that knowledge. Yeah racists are going to racist

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    • DadVolante@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You’re not dumb as fuck.

      It’s a common misconception. Wasn’t even really until around the time of Queen Isabella (Might have the wrong queen as it’s pretty late here) that fair skin was considered preferable and a sign of religious purity.

      Humans are a weird species.

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• AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Italians and Irish weren’t considered white even 100 years ago. Haven’t you seen the photos of signs that read “Help Wanted, Irish and Italians need not apply!” ?

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