Like I said, more Olive toned. Sorry it offends you but ancient Europeans, especially people in the Italian peninsula and Greece didn’t exactly look like the Europeans of today, being as most of them came from a different part of the world
They were white people who left the middle east, they were middle eastern people who eventually turned white due to the different climate conditions of the area.
Not dumb as fuck, nuanced. History is neat like that
The Ashkenazi Jews seem to have bred with people in the area of Russia/Ukraine millennia ago and that’s why you have more Eastern European looking Jewish people. It isn’t because of climate per se.
Even relatively recently, Italians weren’t really considered “white”, especially by Americans. The KKK considered them “coloured” people with their olive skin and dangerous Catholicism. There was a big wave of “italiapobia” in the late 19th/early 20th century.
The governer of Louisiana in 1911 described Italians as “just a little worse than the Negro, being if anything filthier in their habits, lawless, and treacherous”.
People can be pretty terrible when it comes to race and ethnicity.
It’s a common misconception. Wasn’t even really until around the time of Queen Isabella (Might have the wrong queen as it’s pretty late here) that fair skin was considered preferable and a sign of religious purity.
Italians and Irish weren’t considered white even 100 years ago. Haven’t you seen the photos of signs that read “Help Wanted, Irish and Italians need not apply!” ?
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 5 days ago
All Europeans are white… You mean to tell me the amount of melanin in their skin is inconsequential?
DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Like I said, more Olive toned. Sorry it offends you but ancient Europeans, especially people in the Italian peninsula and Greece didn’t exactly look like the Europeans of today, being as most of them came from a different part of the world
They were white people who left the middle east, they were middle eastern people who eventually turned white due to the different climate conditions of the area.
Not dumb as fuck, nuanced. History is neat like that
MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 5 days ago
The Ashkenazi Jews seem to have bred with people in the area of Russia/Ukraine millennia ago and that’s why you have more Eastern European looking Jewish people. It isn’t because of climate per se.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 5 days ago
Looks like I’m the one here who is dumb as fuck.
TechLich@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Even relatively recently, Italians weren’t really considered “white”, especially by Americans. The KKK considered them “coloured” people with their olive skin and dangerous Catholicism. There was a big wave of “italiapobia” in the late 19th/early 20th century.
The governer of Louisiana in 1911 described Italians as “just a little worse than the Negro, being if anything filthier in their habits, lawless, and treacherous”.
People can be pretty terrible when it comes to race and ethnicity.
DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
You’re not dumb as fuck.
It’s a common misconception. Wasn’t even really until around the time of Queen Isabella (Might have the wrong queen as it’s pretty late here) that fair skin was considered preferable and a sign of religious purity.
Humans are a weird species.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Italians and Irish weren’t considered white even 100 years ago. Haven’t you seen the photos of signs that read “Help Wanted, Irish and Italians need not apply!” ?