Why cling to the defeatist attitude? It defeats itself. Why have a defeatist attitude when defeat is inevitable?
Comment on What keeps Americans from being mad about the state of their country?
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 6 days ago
30 years of watching progressive movements flounder and civil action lead to absolutely zero substantial changes has given me a defeatist attitude. What good is getting mad? It’s not like it will change anything.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 days ago
prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 5 days ago
[deleted]Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Like it or not social media gor us here. Just not your social media. I could argue with you all day but I won’t. Your message is stupid and a self defeating prophecy. 350000000 people in the US and I don’t need to turn you. I need to reach any other of the 299000000 who won’t waste my time.
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rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 days ago
From the outside it seems that your progressive movements were a pretty good tool to spread thin the effort that could have gone someplace right, and also to weaken movements which were targeted at the real problems (for example, in the small world of FOSS it’s how FSF and GNU were slowly marginalized into something perceived as unreasonable and Stallman specifically pressed out, and no, his logically correct defense of some kinds of pedophilia and him being generally cringe were not the reason).
Also let’s please remember that everyone flocking to centralized platforms was welcomed by those progressive movements, their activists for whichever reason thought that the scale and the censorship will work in their favor and not those calling to fell the tall trees.
So - this is the logical outcome of what various movements have been doing. This part should make you optimist. And the feeling that you can’t certainly show at something at say that it will succeed should be liberating, not depressing.