Comment on Modding the Gulf of Mexico Back

• uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Um no.

  A state can decide what it names itself or names a part of itself (e.g. Black Lives Matter Plaza). The story of Ukraine illustrates this.

  But geographers and cartographers don’t decide what to name a place or get orders from states by fiat (unless the mapper is a state agent working for a department) They name things based on what they’re called.

  The gulf is known to most of the world and the International Hydrographic Organization as Golfo de México or in English, Gulf of Mexico, and calling it the Gulf of America (say by Google Maps) is political allegiance signaling, that they are MAGA or MAGA collaborators.

  If you want to be spicy you can call it Chalchiuhtlicueyecatl or the House of Chalchiuhtlicue based on the South American deity of the sea. It has a nice ominous Siege of R’lyeh feel that reflects the tempestuous weather of the ocean expanse.

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  • K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    geographers and cartographers don’t decide what to name a place or get orders from states by fiat

    Should we also refer to Texas as Mexico since that’s what it was called at one time?

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• underfreyja@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  And every other mapping source out there that currently still labels it Gulf of Mexico will eventually change it to Gulf of America because that’s what it is recognized by the federal government.

  The US government doesn’t control map charts for the world. The Gulf of Mexico is International water, the US only controls a part of it. Even then, that executive order didn’t have that kind of power in itself, google is gladly enabling this shit because it’s in their best interest to stay as close to the other oligarchs.

  And its not just this, if you think people are De-googling just because they made that change, you’re not looking at the big picture.

  Do you actually believe that Google has not been providing data to the government since the beginning?

  I knew it was happening to some extent but the impact it had on my life was minimal… Now the US government is at war with people like me, it is simply normal that I yeet anything that’s linked to those efforts and that I stop using services from mega corporations that will work with Trump to make all of his insane agenda come true.

  You act like people are overreacting but the truth is we should have done this years ago.

  Plus I’m not from the US so at this point and with Google being so close to Trump I trust them as much as I trust Tencent with my data, which is to say not at all.

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  • K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The government has been at war with everyone in working class for decades. Their sole job is to protect the interests of the oligarchs, blue and red

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• Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Do you actually believe that Google has not been providing data to the government since the beginning?

  I’m sure they have with hindsight being 20/20, however they are simply giving us all a middle finger now. Have some principles.

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